[00:03:18] I WATCHED. I WATCHED JUDY'S GRANDMA GO THROUGH IT, AND THEY PUT HER ON A FEEDING TUBE TO KEEP HER GOING BECAUSE SHE FORGOT ANYBODY. AND THEN. AND THEN YOU REACH A POINT WHERE YOUR BODY FORGETS HOW TO ABSORB THE NUTRIENTS FROM THE FEEDING TUBE. SO YOU BASICALLY STARVE. SHE BASICALLY SHE WAS IN HER 90S AND SHE STARVED TO DEATH. THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT HAPPENED TO HER. BUT. THAT'S NOT ALL YOU NEED. IT'S MANIACAL. IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT HAPPY. I KNOW IT'S SO HARD. YOU SHOULD BE HAPPY. WELL, YOU TALK. YOU TALK TO DOCTORS OR NURSES AND STUFF IN THE LIFE, DECISIONS ARE TOUGH NO MATTER WHAT IT IS. YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE DISEASE IS. IT'S LIKE, WHAT DO WE DO NOW? I HAD TO MAKE A, YOU KNOW, MY MOM AND MY MOM WAS FIGHTING CANCER AND COPD. WELL, THEN SHE HAD A STROKE AND THEY SAID SHE'S BRAIN DEAD. THE MORE INTENSE IT IS. THE CLOSEST. I WENT IN AND TALKED TO HER. AND WHEN I ASKED HER THINGS, SHE'D SQUEEZED MY HAND AND ASKED HER TO. I'M LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF SHE'S BRAIN DEAD. YOU KNOW, SHE JUST CAN'T RESPOND. AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO BELIEVE. AND BUT I KNOW SHE HAD A NO CODE. SHE TOLD US NO CODE, AND SHE LET ME GO. THANK YOU. AND FOR, YOU KNOW. NOW, I THINK THAT AT THE TIME. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. YOU KNOW THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OH, GOSH. DO WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT? [00:05:03] THIS IS THE. MOST IMPORTANT GAME. YEAH, I KNOW. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING. WE WILL CALL THE JULY 9TH SPECIAL CALLED MEETING OF THE AIKEN COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION TO ORDER. WE BEGIN ALL OF OUR MEETINGS WITH A MOMENT OF SILENCE IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. PLEASE JOIN ME IN A MOMENT OF SILENCE. PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALL RIGHT. SO THE AGENDA FOR THIS MEETING WAS SENT IN ADVANCE TO THE BOARD AND PUBLISHED TO THE PUBLIC. I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY REQUESTS FOR EDITS OR CHANGES TO THAT AGENDA. AND IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, WE'LL CONSIDER THE AGENDA APPROVED WITH NO OBJECTIONS. ALL RIGHT. THE AGENDA IS APPROVED. WE HAVE TWO ORDERS OF BUSINESS IN OUR REGULAR SESSION. THE FIRST ONE IS PERSONNEL APPOINTMENTS. WE RECEIVED A LIST OF PERSONNEL APPOINTMENTS THAT WERE SCREENED BY HUMAN RESOURCES AND ADMINISTRATION. AND WE HAVE TO APPROVE THAT. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE LIST OF PERSONNEL APPOINTMENTS AS PRESENTED? MOVED BY MISS RHINEHART-JACKSON, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND BY DOCTOR HANKS. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE LIST OF PERSONNEL APPOINTMENTS AS PRESENTED, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT'S NINE IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIES. THE SECOND ITEM ON OUR AGENDA FOR TONIGHT IS THE DISCUSSION OF AN APPROVAL OF PROJECTS TO BE FUNDED WITH THE EDUCATION CAPITAL PROJECT SALES TAX. OR AS WE ROUTINELY CALL IT AROUND HERE, THE 1% SALES TAX OR PENNY SALES TAX LOCALLY. SO WE HAVE HAD JUST TO KIND OF RECAP, RIGHT. AND YOU GUYS KNOW THIS WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO STUDY THIS, HAVE PUBLIC INPUT SESSIONS, TALK TO OUR CONSTITUENTS, ASK QUESTIONS. AND A COUPLE OF MEETINGS. SO TONIGHT WE ARE NARROWING DOWN PROJECTS ON WHICH THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT WE ARE GOING TO VOTE ON WHAT PROJECTS WE WILL PUT ON OUR RESOLUTIONS FOR BOTH THE EXCUSE ME THAT THE SALES TAX AND FOR ANY, ANY BONDS ISSUED. SO THIS IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF A FREE FORM. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WHERE I'D LIKE TO START, IF WE CAN, IS I LISTEN TO THE COMMENTS FROM FOLKS AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING, AND I READ ALL THE COMMENTS FROM AND ATTENDED THE PUBLIC INPUT SESSIONS, ETC.. AND I WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO SEE WHERE WE HAVE WHERE WE AGREE FIRST IF THAT'S APPROPRIATE. NOW, THE NUMBER THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH, IF FOLKS JUST TO REMEMBER AND I'M I'LL BE KEEPING TRACK IS THAT WE WE HAVE A WE HAVE A NUMBER OF 285 THAT WAS BASED ON DIFFERENT KINDS OF ESTIMATES. THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE PAY GO. THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE PROBABLY BOND PREMIUMS ETCETERA. SO WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT IS TO GET SOMETHING CLOSE TO THAT 285 IN PROJECTS THAT WE'RE COMMITTING TO, TO PUT ON THE BALLOT THAT WE THINK ARE THE MOST VALUE. SO ONE OF THE WAYS I THOUGHT ABOUT DOING THIS IS IF A MEMBER HAS A PARTICULAR PROJECT IN MIND, WE COULD DISCUSS THEM ONE BY ONE, AND ESPECIALLY IF IN DIFFERENT AREAS. BUT AND I WOULD LIKE TO START US OUT AND SEE HOW THIS GOES. SO I WOULD MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE PROJECT FOR RENOVATIONS OR ADDITIONS TO THE NORTH AUGUSTA MIDDLE SCHOOL. THAT WAS PRESENTED ON OUR LIST OF PROJECTS. AND ADD THAT TO THE RESOLUTION FOR BOTH THE EDUCATION CAPITAL PROJECT SALES TAX [00:10:05] RESOLUTION AND THE RESOLUTION FOR THE BONDS. THAT IS A MOTION. OKAY. SECOND. SO MOTION MADE BY MYSELF, SECONDED BY MISS RHINEHART-JACKSON. AND DISCUSSION ON THE NORTH AUGUSTA MIDDLE SCHOOL PROJECT. I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION, IF I MAY. WITH REGARD TO THE ESTIMATE OF 57 MILLION. CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN EXACTLY MAYBE WHAT THAT ENCOMPASSES? I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT FRONT. VERY OLD, BAD LOOKING FRONT PART OF THE BUILDING. I MEAN, EXACTLY WHAT. AND DO YOU FEEL GOOD ABOUT THAT NUMBER? IS THAT. GOOD EVENING. WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE SCOPE OF THAT PROJECT, OF COURSE, THE FRONT OF THE SCHOOL IS VERY DILAPIDATED. AND SO THE INTENT RIGHT NOW IS TO MAKE THE FRONT OF THE SCHOOL THE REAR OF THE SCHOOL. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO GO DOWN THAT HILL AND MAKE THAT THE NEW FACADE OF THE SCHOOL. SO IT'D BE A NEW ENTRYWAY FACADE, AND REPLACE ALL THE CLASSES AND POTENTIALLY ADD ON A FEW MORE CLASSES FOR POTENTIAL GROWTH IN THAT AREA AS WELL, AND BE INCORPORATED IN THAT IN THAT PRICE POINT. OKAY. NO PROBLEM. THANK YOU. DOCTOR HANKS QUESTION. WHEN WE DID OUR MEETINGS AND WE PUT EVERYTHING ON THE TABLE, THERE WAS ALSO A CONCERN FROM NORTH AUGUSTA MIDDLE CONCERNING CONNECTIVITY FROM CLASSROOM OR LIBRARY TO, YOU KNOW, BACK AND FORTH SECURITY. CAN WE LOOK AT ENCOMPASSING THOSE THINGS IN SOME WAY TO MAKE THAT SCHOOL MORE SAFE IN THIS NEW RENOVATION? YES, MA'AM. IT WILL BE A PART OF THE POTENTIAL SCOPE. IT POTENTIALLY WHEN WE UPDATE A SCHOOL, WE'RE GOING TO GO IN. AND CONNECTIVITY IS ONE OF THE BIG THINGS WE LOOK AT AS WELL AS SECURITY. SO ENTRYWAY WILL BE THE VESTIBULE WILL BE THE HIGH SECURITY VESTIBULE. AND OF COURSE THE FACILITY RIGHT NOW WE'VE ADDED ABOUT THREE QUARTERS WORTH OF FENCING, BUT WE NEED TO COMPLETE THAT FENCING PROJECT, SO WE ANTICIPATE COMPLETING THAT PROJECT AS WELL. WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? DOES THE MR. MOULTON POINT OF ORDER QUESTION? I CERTAINLY AGREE WITH THIS, THIS NEED. THE QUESTION I HAVE ARE WE VOTING THAT ONCE THIS IS DONE THAT TAKES 57 MILLION OUT OF THE TOTAL? IS THAT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN HERE FROM THAT ESTIMATES. YES. YES OKAY. YEP. THANK YOU. YEP. AND I AND I'LL JUST TELL YOU I'LL GIVE YOU A PERSONAL OPINION. GIVEN HOW MANY ASSUMPTIONS AND VARIABLES THERE ARE IN THIS, I THINK WE WANT TO GET CLOSE TO 285. I'M NOT NECESSARILY TRYING TO HIT 285 ON THE NOSE, MAYBE WITHIN 10%. THANK YOU. OKAY, MR. SMITH, I'M A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE VOTING LIKE THIS. I THINK WE, AS A BOARD NEED TO COME TO A CONSENSUS ON WHAT OUR PROGRAM'S GOING TO BE INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH HERE AND VOTING ONE AT A TIME, BECAUSE SOMETHING'S GOING TO GET LEFT OUT BY DOING IT THIS WAY. OKAY. I HAVE A QUESTION, DOCTOR HANKS. SO WE DON'T GO THROUGH THE LIST AND TRY TO NARROW IT DOWN. MR. SMITH. WHAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION? BECAUSE AT SOME POINT WE ALREADY KNOW SOME THINGS ARE GOING TO GET LEFT OUT. WE CAN'T INCLUDE EVERYTHING. SO HOW DO WE GO ABOUT NARROWING THIS LIST DOWN? THAT'S MY POINT. OTHER DISCUSSION. OKAY. DOCTOR BRADLEY, I WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE TO HAVE AN OVERALL PICTURE OF SOME OF THE RANK ORDERING FOR THE PROJECT. WITH THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT. I, I'M AFRAID IF WE TAKE IT IN A PIECEMEAL PLACE BY TAKING ONE OUT AND VOTING ON IT, IF WE'RE GOING TO GET DOWN TO A POINT WHERE. WE'RE JUST DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY LEFT. AND THERE WON'T BE ANY WAY TO COMPROMISE IN TERMS OF SCOPE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, ASSUMING THAT THAT'S EVEN POSSIBLE, I DON'T KNOW. YEAH. ASSUMING WHAT, SIR? WHAT WAS THAT LAST PART THAT SAYS. I SAID, I'M AFRAID WE'RE GOING TO GET DOWN TO A POINT WHERE THERE'S NO MONEY LEFT IN PROJECTS LEFT ON THE TABLE, WHEREAS IF WE COULD DISCUSS SCOPE OR MAYBE [00:15:01] SOME TWEAKS ALONG THE WAY WITHOUT VOTING ON THEM, WE COULD PERHAPS EXTEND THE IMPACT OF THE MONEY TO BE GENERATED BY THIS $0.01 SALES TAX, TO TOUCH MORE PEOPLE AND TO MAKE IT A MORE PALATABLE CHOICE FOR THE PEOPLE TO VOTE. OKAY, SO FROM A SO WHAT I WAS TRYING TO ACHIEVE WITH THIS WAS BASED ON THE COMMENTS FROM EVERYBODY. I THOUGHT THERE WAS NOT NOT A LOT, BUT THERE WAS SOME COMMON GROUND AND I WAS TRYING TO GET THAT COMMON GROUND BEHIND US. BUT I COULD ALWAYS BE WRONG. MY CONCERN IS NOT I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN SITES THAT REALLY NEED ATTENTION. BUT, BUT, BUT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT HOW MUCH ATTENTION, OKAY. OR IF THERE'S ANY WIGGLE ROOM THERE OR WHATEVER. I MEAN, ANY WAY YOU TWEAK IT TO MAKE IT THE POT OF MONEY GO A LITTLE BIT FARTHER WOULD WOULD IT BE SO IN MY ESTIMATION BASED ON THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, I THINK FIVE PROJECTS WOULD PROBABLY BE THE MOST THAT WE'RE GOING TO FIT IN. IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW YOU DO IT. AND THEN THERE'S CONTINGENCY PROJECTS. SO BASED ON THAT TRAIN OF THOUGHT WOULD PEOPLE FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE IF WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT OUR TOP WHAT OUR TOP SIX PRIORITIES ARE. AND THEN I'M. I'M OPEN TO OTHER SUGGESTIONS. DOCTOR HANKS REFRESH MY MEMORY. AREN'T WE ALSO UNDER A DEADLINE? WE AGREED TO COME TO A CONSENSUS TONIGHT TO SORT OF BE ABLE TO HAVE A PERMANENT OR DEFINITE VOTE BY NEXT MEETING, BECAUSE THAT INFORMATION NEEDS TO BE READY TO BE PUBLISHED. WHATEVER WE DECIDE WILL BE PUT INTO THE RESOLUTION THAT WE WILL ADOPT OR APPROVE NEXT WEEK. SO. BUT IF IF THE THE WE CAN TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN COLLECTIVELY TALK ABOUT RANKED ORDER OF PROJECTS. WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE FROM A HIGH LEVEL ESTIMATE STANDPOINT. WHERE DOES THAT PUT US WITH WHAT'S LEFT? I JUST HADN'T PLANNED TO DO IT THAT WAY, BUT THAT'S FINE. AND IF THERE. I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT COLLECTIVELY. YEAH. MR. CHAIRMAN. YES, SIR. MR. SILAS, YOU KNOW, INITIALLY I THOUGHT THAT YOUR APPROACH WOULD BE A GOOD APPROACH TO KIND OF CHERRY PICK OR PICK OFF THE ONES THAT, THAT, THAT WE WOULD ALL AGREE ON. BUT NOW I'M ALSO TRYING TO THINK OF A WAY TO ACCOMMODATE MR. SMITH'S CONCERN AND DOCTOR BRADLEY'S POINT OF VIEW TO TO TRY TO ESTABLISH A LITTLE LIST BEFORE WE VOTE ON PUTTING IT ON THE ON THE BALLOT. CAN IS THERE A WAY YOU KNOW, I GUESS, THAT WE CAN TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF A STRAW POLL TO IT'S NOT A FORMAL VOTE TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT, BUT CAN WE DO A SHOW OF HANDS? OKAY. NORTH AUGUSTA MIDDLE. WE ALL THINK THAT SHOULD BE ON THERE. LET'S LET'S DO THAT AND MOVE ON AND KIND OF SEE HOW IT PLAYS OUT AND COME BACK. I'M REALLY THINKING OUT LOUD HERE AND TRY TO COME UP WITH A WAY THAT WOULD I THINK MAYBE THE BEST WAY TO DO IT IS WE'RE GOING TO GO. THIS WON'T TAKE VERY LONG. I INITIALLY WASN'T GOING TO DO THIS WAY. WE CAN GO GET SOME. AN EASEL PAD AND SOME MICROPHONE. MR. CHAIR. WE CAN GO GET AN EASEL PAD AND SOME CHART PAPER, AND I REALLY HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY'S COME PREPARED WITH WHAT THEIR PRIORITIZED PROJECTS ARE THAT GET CLOSE TO 285. AND THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY ADJUSTING SCOPE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, OR AT LEAST THE BUDGET SCOPE ON THOSE PROJECTS. BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, WE HAVE A MOTION WITH A SECOND ON THE FLOOR. AND I JUST WHAT I WOULD DO IS THAT THERE'S NO PROBLEM AS LONG AS MISS RHINEHART-JACKSON AGREES THAT I WOULD MOVE TO RESCIND THE MOTION AND NOT TAKE A VOTE. DO YOU AGREE? SO I MADE THE MOTION. YOU SECONDED IT. I THINK AS LONG AS WE BOTH AGREED TO RESCIND THE MOTION, THEN THAT'S OFF THE TABLE. SO THIS WON'T TAKE LONG TO GET A FEW SUPPLIES SO THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T REALLY HAVE, LIKE, A BIG ELECTRIC. WELL, UNLESS WE WANT TO DO IT ON THE LAPTOP THAT'S HOOKED UP TO THE SCREEN. BUT, YEAH, THEY GET THEY GOT IT GOIN. THEY'RE ALREADY WORKING ON IT. SO. YEAH. [00:20:11] NO. THAT'S NOT A THING. GOOD TIME, GOOD TIME. AND THEN. MORE THAN LIKELY WE AS. ALRIGHTY. CAN YOU ALL SEE THAT? IS THAT GOOD? CAN YOU ALL SEE THAT? I CAN, EVERYBODY ELSE CAN. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. SO IS EVERYBODY READY? SO THE POINT OF THIS IS. AND I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO MR. TRAXLER HOW HE WANTS TO DENOTE THIS. IF YOU REFER BACK TO THE PROJECT LIST THAT WE'VE BEEN REFERENCING FOR A WHILE, OR AT LEAST A MONTH OR TWO, THE I THINK ALL THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE ON THERE ARE UP THERE ON THIS SHEET THAT PLEASE JUST DON'T I, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S CLEAR. STARTING WITH THE THIRD ROW. THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT OPTIONS INVOLVING SILVER BLUFF HIGH SCHOOL AND MR. TRAXLER WROTE UP THERE. OPTION ONE, TWO AND THREE. SO I CAN'T THINK OF A BETTER WAY TO DO THIS, EXCEPT OTHER THAN TO GO DOWN THE ROW AND TALK ABOUT PRIORITY PROJECTS. AND NOW ONCE WE'VE DONE THAT, THE AND I WOULD ASK TO KEEP IT LIMITED TO SIX. ONCE WE'VE DONE THAT WE CAN WE'LL PUT PRICE TAGS NEXT TO THOSE THAT ARE FROM THE SHEET. OR WE CAN DO THAT OFFHAND OR UP THERE OR WHATEVER. AND WE CAN SEE WHERE KIND OF WHERE WE FLUSH OUT PERHAPS OF, YOU KNOW, IF WE DID GO IN A DIRECTION WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, LET'S SAY THE TOP FIVE, WHAT EXACTLY WOULD THAT ESTIMATES WORK OUT TO BE? SO IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER, IF WE'RE READY, WE'LL GO FROM MY LEFT DOWN TO MY RIGHT. DOCTOR BRADLEY. WELL, THE SITUATION I'M MOST FAMILIAR WITH IS THE AREA ONE SOUTH AIKEN HYDE. KENNEDY. AND WHAT I WAS REALLY TRYING TO SAY EARLIER IS THAT BOTH OF THESE SCHOOLS ARE REQUESTING OR A NEW GYM, AND I WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST EXPLORE THE IDEA OF HAVING A COMPETITION GYM THAT WOULD SERVE BOTH SCHOOL LOCATED PREFERABLY BETWEEN THE TWO, IF THERE WAS ANY WAY TO DO THAT. BUT YOU KNOW, THE IDEA BEING THAT THEY COULD KEEP THE EXISTING GYMS FOR PRACTICE PURPOSES AND THAT SORT OF THING, BUT BOTH WOULD HAVE A NICE FACILITY, SORT OF LIKE THE JAMES TAYLOR BUILDING OVER AT AIKEN HIGH SCHOOL TO PLAY, PLAY THEIR GAMES AND THAT SORT OF THING. THEIR RATIONALE IS THAT IT SHOULD BE CHEAPER TO BUILD ONE NICE GYM THAN TWO. OR WHATEVER. NOW, AGAIN, I'M NOT AN ARCHITECT AND I ENGINEER ANYTHING. I DON'T EVEN KNOW OF THE FEASIBILITY OF DOING THAT OR WHATEVER, BUT IF WE COULD SAVE SOME BUCKS BY BUILDING ONE NICE GYM RATHER THAN TWO. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A CERTAINLY SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AND MIGHT BE ABLE TO PASS SOME MONEY ON TO SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS. THAT'S ONE I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT. WE ALL KNOW THAT. WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT THE SILVER BLUFF SITUATION. AND WE'LL HAVE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THAT WITH THE OPTIONS THAT ARE THERE. THE NORTH, THE NORTH, NORTH AUGUSTA ELEMENTARY SITUATION IS DEFINITELY ONE THAT NEEDS ATTENTION. ELEMENTARY OR MIDDLE, SIR? I'M SORRY. MIDDLE SCHOOL. JUST GOING TO VOTE ON AREA THREE. [00:25:05] CERTAINLY. SOMETHING'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE DONE THERE BECAUSE OF GROWTH. I'M NOT REALLY WILD ABOUT THE IDEA OF CLOSING SCHOOLS IN AREA THREE RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY NEED THEM, AND WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO NEED TO BUILD ADDITIONAL CLASSROOMS DOWN THERE. SO I THINK THAT HOWEVER WE ORGANIZED THAT THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE A PRIORITY. HOW MANY IS THAT FOR ME? OH, I KEEP HEARING MIDLAND VALLEY HIGH, TOO. IS IN NEED OF ADDITIONAL CLASSROOMS, I BELIEVE. AT THIS POINT, I DON'T KNOW THAT I'M QUALIFIED TO SPEAK TO ANY OF THE OTHERS. YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF TRYING TO DIFFERENTIATE ONE AS BEING MORE IMPORTANT, THE OTHER. BUT. SO I YIELD AND SAVE MY RIGHT TO SPEAK LATER. OKAY. DOCTOR. HANKS. NOW, NOW, WHEN I TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING, I'M TALKING ABOUT ALL THE IDEAS THAT HAVE BEEN KICKED AROUND HERE. I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE SCHOOLS THAT NEED REFURBISHING. WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE ADDITIONAL NEW CLASSROOMS WHERE THEY SHOULD BE BUILT. WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE SPACE IN THE HIGH SCHOOL, ALL THAT SORT OF IT ALL NEEDS TO INTEGRATE. I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE NOT INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE A WELL THOUGHT OUT INTEGRATED PROJECT. NOT HANKS. SO NORTH AUGUSTA MIDDLE HANDS DOWN IS MY NUMBER ONE. I THINK WE'VE ALL TALKED ABOUT IT AND AGREED THAT THEY SHOULD BE ON THE LIST. I WOULD LIKE JUST DETAILS, WHETHER IT BE FROM DOCTOR MURPHY OR WHOEVER ELSE CAN ON THE THREE HIGH SCHOOLS, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT MY AREA, BECAUSE THOSE LITERALLY WOULD WIPE OUT THE BUDGET IF WE DID SOMETHING TO EACH ONE OF THOSE. CAN WE JUST GET A SYNOPSIS ON, IN YOUR OPINION, WHICH SCHOOL NEEDS THE MOST AND WHAT? BECAUSE WE CANNOT DO THEM ALL. GOOD EVENING DOCTOR HANKS. I WOULD JUST BEGIN BY STATING THAT OVER THE LAST 10 TO 14 YEARS WE HAVE ADDRESSED ALL THE HIGH SCHOOLS EXCEPT FOR SOUTH AIKEN AND SILVER BLUFF. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO GET A KIND OF AN EQUALIZATION ACROSS THE DISTRICT OF HAVING SOME PREMIER HIGH SCHOOLS. AND WHEN WE LOOK AT AT THE AMOUNT OF MONIES WE'VE SPENT, I WANT TO SAY I'M USING BALLPARK NUMBERS. BUT AT NORTH AUGUSTA, ROUGHLY AROUND 75 MILLION AT AIKEN HIGH, ROUGHLY AROUND 75 MILLION AT MIDLAND VALLEY, ROUGHLY AROUND 28 MILLION. AND SO WHAT WE WERE LOOKING TO DO WAS TO FIND A STANDARD, SPECIFICALLY WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT BASED ON THE SIZING OF THE SCHOOLS, OF COURSE, BECAUSE THAT WAGENER-SALLEY HIGH WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT AT RICH SPRING, IT WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT CAUSE THEY WERE SMALLER SCHOOLS. AND SO YOU HAVE TWO FINAL HIGH SCHOOLS THAT ARE REMAINING. SOUTH AIKEN. IT'S ROUGHLY AROUND 40 TO 45 YEARS OLD AGING STRUCTURE. SO IT'S GOING TO NEED A LOT OF SPACES. DEFINITELY NEEDS A COMPETITION GYM LIKE DOCTOR BRADLEY REFERENCED EARLIER TODAY. ALL OF OUR OTHER HIGH SCHOOLS HAVE TWO GYMS, SO THEY WOULD NEED A COMPETITION GYM. THEY NEED SOME MORE SPACES. THEY HAVE A NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED CULINARY PROGRAM THAT'S OPERATING OUT OF A CLASSROOM INSTEAD OF A CULINARY ARTS LAB. AND SO THOSE WOULD BE SOME SPACES THAT WE WOULD TAKE A LOOK AT, AS WELL AS, OF COURSE, CLASSROOM SPACE BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH. SO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE ADD IN NEW CLASSROOM SPACES. AND ONE OF THE THINGS I ALWAYS HARP ON IS A BEAUTIFUL CAFETERIA DINING EXPERIENCE. SO I'D LIKE RIGHT NOW THERE'S NO LIGHT AT ALL IN THE CAFETERIA. SO I'D LIKE, YOU KNOW, SOME GLASS AND A HIGH CEILING THERE. LOOKING AT SILVER BLUFF, VERY SIMILAR SITUATION. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THREE SCHOOLS THAT WERE BUILT AT THE EXACT SAME TIME. YOU KNOW, SOUTH AIKEN, SILVER BLUFF AND MIDLAND VALLEY. SO SILVER BLUFF AGING STRUCTURE DEFINITELY NEEDS A ROOF. SAME IN SOUTH AIKEN, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE SOME SPACES THAT ARE JUST ANTIQUATED. THEY'RE NOT DESIGNED FOR 21ST CENTURY LEARNING. AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SPACES THAT ARE DESIGNED FOR TECHNOLOGY, DESIGNED FOR STUDENTS TO HAVE A GOOD EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCE. AND SO THOSE WOULD BE SOME OF THE THINGS WE LOOK AT. THE SCOPE WOULD BE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT FOR EACH ONE BECAUSE THERE'S DIFFERENT PROGRAMS OUT THERE. AND SO IF WE CAN GET, YOU KNOW, A COMMITMENT FROM, TO DO THE PROJECTS, THEN WE WOULD LOOK AT THE SCOPE AND WE COULD TAILOR IT, LET'S SAY, INSTEAD OF IT WAS $60 MILLION AND ONLY $50 MILLION FOR ONE, WE COULD GO BACK TO THE ARCHITECT AND TRY TO REFINE THE SCOPE, BECAUSE THESE ARE PROJECTIONS, THESE THESE FIGURES HERE ARE PROJECTIONS, AND IT'S A MOVING TARGET. SO I JUST I CAUTION YOU ALL NOT TO LOOK AT THE DOLLAR FIGURE AS IT'S GOING TO BE A SPECIFIC PRICE POINT, BUT SO A, A, A ROUND FIGURE AND A TARGET THAT [00:30:05] WE WOULD AIM TO HIT BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF MONIES THAT WE HAD AVAILABLE AT MIDLAND VALLEY. YOU'VE ALREADY SAID IT. THE GROWTH IS THERE. SO WE'RE GOING TO NEED MORE CLASSROOM SPACES AT MIDLAND VALLEY RIGHT NOW. THEY ARE ON THE CUSP OF REQUESTING PORTABLES, AND WE'VE ALREADY REMODELED THE SCHOOL. WE'VE ADDED 20 CLASSROOMS IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, AND THEY FILLED THEM IN. AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ADDING CLASSROOM SPACE THERE. SO THAT WILL BE THE GROWTH ASPECT OF OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING THE GROWTH AT IN THE DISTRICT. SO THAT'S WHY THE THREE HIGH SCHOOLS WERE THERE. AND POTENTIALLY, IN MY OPINION, PRIORITIES. I'LL JUST FINISH WITH THAT BY SAYING NORTH AUGUSTA MIDDLE FOR SURE. AND THEN I JUST THINK THE HIGH SCHOOLS NEED TO BE TOUCHED AS WELL. AND THAT WOULD BE SOUTH AIKEN HIGH. AND SOUNDS LIKE MIDLAND VALLEY ALI FOR SURE. AND WERE YOU SAYING SO AS PART OF THE HIGH SCHOOL? I THINK I'M GOING TO DEFER THAT TO THE SILVER BLUFF EXPERTS, BECAUSE THAT ONE ONE RECOMMENDATION PRETTY MUCH EATS UP, EATS UP HALF OF THE BUDGET. SO I WON'T. I'LL ABSTAIN ON COMMENTING RIGHT NOW ON SILVER BLUFF TILL WE CAN SEE WHERE EVERYTHING ELSE FALLS. OKAY. YEAH. AND JUST SO THERE WAS THREE DIFFERENT OPTIONS PUT OUT THERE WITH SILVER BLUFF HIGH SCHOOL. AND THEY RANGE ON OUR SHEETS, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY THE MOST EXPENSIVE IS DOUBLE THE, THE LEAST EXPENSIVE AND THE THAT OPTION NUMBER THREE. EXCUSE ME. NUMBER TWO IS ESSENTIALLY RENOVATIONS AND ADDITIONS TO THE HIGH SCHOOL. ONLY, ONLY. MR. BROOME. OKAY, OBVIOUSLY, I'M THE THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR AREA FIVE. SO FIRST OFF, I'VE FOR THE MEETING. I HANDED OUT SOME PAPERS. I WANT EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND THAT IN THE 2014 TO 2024 PROJECT LIST THE FACILITIES DEPARTMENT HERE AT THE DISTRICT HAS PULLED THE LIST OF ALL THE PROJECTS THAT'S BEEN DONE IN THE DISTRICT. AND THIS IS A BALLPARK 400 MILLION PLUS LIST. IF YOU'LL NOTICE, AREA FIVE HAD $0. OF PROJECTS IN THAT TEN YEAR PERIOD, WHEREAS MOST OF THE OTHER AREAS WAS UPWARDS OF 100 150 MILLION IN AREA. ALSO, I'VE PASSED OUT A FACILITY ASSESSMENT REPORT. AND IF YOU'LL NOTICE, OTIS. GREENDALE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WHICH IS SITTING RIGHT AT THE ENTRANCE TO SAVANNAH RIVER SITE, IS THE WORST OF THE WORST IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS ON FACILITY REPORT. WELL, JUST LOOK AT REPORT. WHY DID I HAND IT TO YOU? ALSO, JACKSON MIDDLE, THE ONLY MIDDLE SCHOOL IN THE RED. WORST OF THE WORST IN THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS. SILVER BLUFF HIGH SCHOOL WITH WAGNER BEING BUILT. NEW NOW, WORST OF THE WORST IN THE HIGH SCHOOLS. SO WHEN MY AREA SCREAMS THAT WE HAVE BEEN GETTING OVERLOOKED, I PUT THE PAPERWORK IN FRONT OF ALL OF US TO PROVE THE POINT. NO PROJECTS IN TEN YEARS. FACILITY ASSESSMENT REPORT DONE BY OUTSIDE SUPPLIER NUMBERS OUT THE BUILDINGS. WE HAVE THE WORST ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WORST OF THE WORST IN THE ELEMENTARY DEPARTMENT, WORST OF THE WORST IN THE MIDDLE, AND THE SAME IN THE HIGH SCHOOL. SO WHEN YOU SEE THE NUMBERS FOR SILVER BLUFF, I THINK THAT YOU NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT THERE'S SOME CATCH UP TO BE DONE NOW MOVING FORWARD FROM THAT. THE PROPOSALS OUT THERE, WE TALKED ABOUT GREENDALE, AND I THINK, I WISH THE BUS TOUR WOULD HAVE HAPPENED. GREENDALE, TO ME, IS NOT AN OPTION. IT HAS GOT TO BE REPLACED. THAT SCHOOL IS LOOKS. WELL, BARRY, YOU I MEAN, BRIAN, YOU LOOKED AT IT. I MEAN, WOULD YOU NOT AGREE THAT WALKING INTO MOST ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, IT'S DEFINITELY NOT IN THE SHAPE THAT MOST ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS IN OUR DISTRICT ARE? CAR. IT'S NOT. IT LOOKS BAD ON THE EXTERIOR AND THE INTERIOR. IT LOOKS AMAZINGLY WELL. CONDITION WISE, IT IS OUTDATED. AND EVEN ON THE INSIDE IT'S A 50S VINTAGE BUILDING. [00:35:03] IT'S BEEN PATCHED, AND EVEN SOME OF THE CLASSROOMS STILL HAVE THE EXPOSED METAL TRUSSES EXPOSED IN THEM. SO THE THE TALK WAS IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT PROPOSALS. IF, IF WE COULD GET GREENDALE MOVED TO THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND SEE WE GOT TWO MIDDLE SCHOOLS THAT ARE SMALL, BOTH OF THEM ARE AROUND 300 STUDENTS APIECE, WHICH IS HALF OF WHAT MOST OF THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS AND WITH THE EXCEPTION OF AREA FOUR, WHICH THE LAND MASS MAKES THAT KIND OF IMPOSSIBLE TO DO ANYTHING WITH. PUTTING THESE TWO MIDDLE SCHOOLS TOGETHER TO GIVE THEM THE SAME OPPORTUNITIES THAT MOST OF THE OTHER MIDDLE SCHOOLS ARE ENJOYING. AS FAR AS THE CLASSES OFFERED IN THAT KIND OF STUFF WOULD BE WOULD BE ONE, ONE GOAL. THE OTHER GOAL IS TO GET GREENDALE INTO A DECENT BUILDING. AND OF COURSE, SILVER BLUFF AND SOUTH AIKEN BOTH ARE DOING RENOVATIONS THERE. THEY'RE THE ONLY TWO HIGH SCHOOLS IN THE IN THE CIRCUIT NOW THAT HAVE NOT BEEN RENOVATED. SO I DON'T I DON'T THINK THERE'S MUCH QUESTION THERE. MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO BUILD A NEW HIGH SCHOOL AND ON THE SAME GROUND, PUT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL. TURN SILVER BLUFF HIGH WITH SOME RENOVATION INTO THE MIDDLE SCHOOL. COMBINE THE TWO MIDDLE SCHOOLS AND THEN GREENDALE. GO TO NEW ARLINGTON MIDDLE WITH SOME RENOVATED NEW OLDER MIDDLE. STILL A GOOD BUILDING. IT JUST WOULD HAVE TO BE RENOVATED WITH SOME. AND DOCTOR MURPHY CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THAT WITH SOME CHANGES THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THE ELEMENTARY PART. WOULD YOUR RESTROOMS IN THE CLASSROOMS AND SOME THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT TO LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS AND FEEL LIKE THAT AREA FIVE HAS WOULD TAKE A LOT OF MONEY. UNDERSTAND AREA FIVE HAS TAKEN NO MONEY ON PROJECTS IN TEN YEARS, AND Y'ALL GOT A LIST IN FRONT OF YOU AND YOU DO THE MATH. THEY'RE WAY BEHIND. MOVING ON FROM THAT, I AGREE THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT SOUTH AIKEN AND AND PROBABLY THE MILLBROOK SITUATION. NORTH AUGUSTA MIDDLE SCHOOL, I THINK IS A PRIORITY. AND I THINK IT'S A PRIORITY TO BUILD A ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN AREA THREE, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE DO HAVE SOME AGING SCHOOLS. AND I'M, AGAIN, NOT SAYING WE CLOSE ANY OF THEM, BUT I THINK THAT WITH THE POPULATION GROWTH THERE, THAT THAT'S THAT'S GOING TO BE A PRIORITY. NOW AS FAR AS THE HIGH SCHOOLS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THE WHOLE ANSWER THERE BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT FROM A BUSINESS SIDE OF WHERE EVERYBODY'S GOING AND WHERE WE'VE GOT SPACE AND WHERE WE DON'T. SO THAT'S THAT'S MY $0.02 FOR RIGHT NOW. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. BROOME. DURING THAT LAST PART WHERE YOU WERE LISTING WHAT YOUR PRIORITY PROJECTS WERE, YOU MENTIONED MILLBROOK, WHICH WHICH THAT PROJECT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE. I MEANT I'M SORRY. I MEANT. KENNEDY. KENNEDY. OKAY. THAT'S MY MISTAKE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR. YEAH, I MEANT I MEANT KENNEDY, OKAY. MR. SMITH. I'M PROBABLY GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. NORTH AUGUSTA MIDDLE SCHOOL IS IN NEED. EVERY SCHOOL IN NORTH AUGUSTA HAS BEEN RETIRED FOR EIGHT YEARS, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME HARD DECISIONS SOMEWHERE. AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN SCOPE BACK ON WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO WITH SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S FEASIBLE, BUT I DO KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT SOME SITUATIONS THAT NEED TO BE DEALT WITH ASAP. TALKING ABOUT SCHOOL READINESS. IN MIND, ONE THAT I'M CONCERNED MOST ABOUT BECAUSE I GOT 13 MOBILE UNITS AT GLOBEVILLE ELEMENTARY. THERE'S MORE KIDS OUTSIDE THE BUILDING THAN THERE IS INSIDE THE BUILDING. AND THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT AND ADDRESSED. THE SCHOOL DOESN'T NEED A COMPLETE OVERHAUL, A COMPLETE REBUILDING. IT JUST NEEDS CLASSROOMS. AND IF SOME MONEY COULD BE PULLED FROM SOMEPLACE ELSE TO BE ABLE TO HELP SOLVE THE PROBLEM, WE HAVE TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE NUMBERS GLOVERVILLE AS FAR AS CONDITION OF SCHOOLS. GLOVERVILLE SCORED THE LOWEST AT 40.54%. THAT'S PRETTY LOW. THERE'S NOT A LOWER ONE IN THE DISTRICT, [00:40:02] AND IT'S ALL BECAUSE OF THE 13 MOBILE UNITS THAT ARE SITTING DOWN THERE. AND THESE ARE WHERE OUR YOUNGEST KIDS ARE. SPECIAL NEEDS KIDS ARE IN THOSE MOBILE UNITS AND THEY NEED TO BE INSIDE A STRUCTURALLY SOUND BUILDING. I THINK THAT SOUTH AIKEN, MIDDLE VALLEY AND SILVER BLUFF IN THAT ORDER NEEDS TO BE THE PRIORITY BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT NEED IT. BUT I DO NOT THINK THAT WE CAN AFFORD TO DO ALL IT POSSIBLY NEEDS TO BE DONE IN SILVER BLUFF AREA, BUT WE NEED TO LOOK AT DOING AS MUCH AS WE CAN. TO DO AS MANY SCHOOLS AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. AND THAT'S WHERE I'M MY FOCUS IS RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU, MR. SMITH. JUST AT A AT A HIGH LEVEL FROM A PRINCIPAL, KIND OF HOW I VIEW THINGS. I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY. WE HAVE AN AMAZING OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUR HIGH SCHOOLS TO SIMILAR. SIMILAR. SIMILAR LEVELS WITHIN A 20 YEAR SPAN. THAT'S AMAZING. THEY'RE NOT ALL GOING TO BE SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE REBUILT NORTH AUGUSTA, WE REBUILT AIKEN HIGH. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING ADDITIONS AND RENOVATIONS. ON THE OTHER ONE, WE REBUILT BUILT A NEW WAGENER-SALLEY HIGH. BUT THEY'RE GOING TO BE HAVE SIMILAR TYPE OF OPPORTUNITIES AND FACILITIES AND CONDITIONS. AND THAT'S JUST AMAZING. AND I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO DO THAT IN THIS BECAUSE THOSE ARE BIG TICKET ITEMS THAT YOU'LL IT WOULD TAKE YOU 30 YEARS TO TRY TO PIECE TOGETHER IF YOU EVEN IF YOU COULD, WITH 8% FUNDS. SO SO GO AHEAD AND CHECK SOUTH AIKEN MIDLAND VALLEY AND OPTION TWO ON SILVER BLUFF HIGH SCHOOL. BEYOND THAT, THE I WOULD FAVOR NORTH AUGUSTA MIDDLE SCHOOL. AND THEN FOR SIMILAR REASONS THAT SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ALREADY ALREADY STATED WITH ALL THE, WITH THE CAPACITY AND THAT THE ENROLLMENT THAT WE SEE AT, FOR INSTANCE, AT LIKE BYRD AND GRANITEVILLE AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE GETTING PUT UP IN AREA THREE, I THINK WHEN I TRY TO BALLPARK GETTING CLOSE TO 285, I THINK THAT THAT FIFTH PROJECT OF MINE THAT WE COULD SCOPE IN IS AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN AREA THREE. ONE THING I'LL NOTE IS IN A SECOND WHEN WE GET THROUGH THIS AND I JUST, I JUST WANT TO APOLOGIZE IN A SECOND. AFTER WE GET THROUGH THIS, THEN WE'LL KIND OF START PUTTING NUMBERS TO IT SO YOU CAN GET THAT PERSPECTIVE. JUST JUST BY MISTAKE, THE THE PRINTOUT THAT WAS PUT IN YOUR SEATS TONIGHT WAS THE FIRST VERSION OF THIS, NOT THE SECOND. SO WHEN WE START, WE'LL PUT NUMBERS FROM THE SECOND VERSION ON THERE WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT THAT. MISS RHINEHART-JACKSON IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER. SOUTH AIKEN HIGH SCHOOL, MIDLAND VALLEY. MIDLAND VALLEY HIGH SCHOOL. SILVER BLUFF HIGH SCHOOL, OPTION ONE. NORTH AUGUSTA MIDDLE AND ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR. A NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. MR.. MOULTON. JUST ONE COMMENT AND I'LL TRY TO RANK THEM PRETTY QUICKLY. COMMENT IS I FEEL LIKE THE THE MOST BANG FOR THE BUCK ARE THE HIGH SCHOOLS BECAUSE ALL THE STUDENTS EVENTUALLY END UP IN THOSE HIGH SCHOOLS. WHEREAS ALL THE STUDENTS DON'T END UP IN A PARTICULAR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. AND WE DO HAVE PROBLEMS. I'M NOT I'M NOT ONE TO SAY. I LOOK AT ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND I SEE LOTS OF PROBLEMS. I SEE GREENDALE AS BEING A PROBLEM. SO I'VE HEARD SOME THINGS THAT I THINK ARE TRUE. BUT I THINK WITH THE MONEY WE HAVE, THE FOCUS NEEDS TO BE ON THE HIGH SCHOOLS. WITH ONE EXCEPTION. I AGREE WITH DOCTOR HANKS ABOUT NORTH AUGUSTA MIDDLE SCHOOL AS WELL. SO ANYWAY, I'D PUT NUMBER ONE, NORTH AUGUSTA MIDDLE NUMBER TWO, SOUTH AIKEN HIGH SCHOOL. NUMBER THREE, MIDLAND VALLEY HIGH SCHOOL. NUMBER FOUR SILVER BLUFF. OPTION TWO. AND I'M GOING TO THROW IN THERE BECAUSE I KNOW FIRSTHAND THE ISSUES THEY'RE HAVING. I'M GOING TO THROW IN THERE AS MY NUMBER FIVE IS GLOVERSVILLE ELEMENTARY. MR. SILAS. I DIDN'T DISTINGUISH WHICH OPTION I WAS TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS THE SILVER BLUFF AREA. TALKING ABOUT OPTION TWO, YOU MARK ME AS OFF TO THE SIDE. [00:45:01] YEAH. MR.. SILAS. YES, SIR. MR. MOULTON STOLE A LITTLE BIT OF MY THUNDER BECAUSE I TO I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, ALL OF OUR STUDENTS GO THROUGH OUR HIGH SCHOOLS, SO. MY PRIORITIES ARE GOING TO LEAN TOWARD TAKING CARE OF THE HIGH SCHOOLS. I THINK, AS IT'S BEEN SAID, THAT'S THAT'S THE BEST VALUE. WE CAN OFFER THERE TO GET THEM ON AS MUCH OF A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD AS AS WE CAN, YOU KNOW. AND SOUTH AIKEN AND MIDLAND VALLEY AND SILVER BLUFF. OH, OPTION TWO ON SILVER BLUFF WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO PROBABLY DEFER TO MR. BROOME WHEN WE KIND OF GET TO THAT, BUT BUT I, I UNDERSTAND, MR. BROOME ABOUT THE NO MONEY IN IN THESE PROJECTS BUT FOR AREA FIVE. BUT I DO WANT TO POINT OUT TWO OF THE ONES LISTED FOR AREA THREE REALLY SUPPORT THE ENTIRE COUNTY. SO THE ADULT EDUCATION CENTER IS NOT A SPECIFIC AREA. THREE NEITHER IS KATE. SO SO THAT LEAVES YOU WITH GLOVERVILLE, GRANITEVILLE AND LAVELLE AND AND GRANITEVILLE. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT CAME OUT OF I THOUGHT IT WAS A $90 MILLION BOND, WASN'T IT? NO. GRANITEVILLE WAS 88%. SO AND THAT WAS IN RESPONSE TO AN IMMEDIATE NEED, I BELIEVE SO. SO. IT'S GOT ALL THE DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES. SO TWO OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, WERE NOT AREA THREE SPECIFIC, ALTHOUGH IT'S LOCATED IN AREA THREE. THEY SERVE THE ENTIRE COUNTY. SO THE THREE HIGH SCHOOLS, I WOULD SAY NORTH AUGUSTA MIDDLE. AND THEN THE FIFTH PROJECT FOR ME, I THINK, I THINK WE HAVE TO RESPOND TO THE NEED FOR ELEMENTARY CAPACITY IN AREA THREE. SO TO ME, THAT'S A NEW SCHOOL SOMEWHERE IN AREA THREE. NONE OF THE PROJECTS MENTIONED HERE TONIGHT, IN MY OPINION. ALL OF THEM DESERVE ATTENTION, WITHOUT A DOUBT. AND IT'S DIFFICULT TO TO PICK AND CHOOSE. I MEAN, I SAID IN THE LAST MEETING THAT, MY GOSH, WE'VE GOT TO FIND SOME WAY IF IT DOESN'T MAKE THIS FIVE PROJECT LIST, WE'VE GOT TO FIND SOME WAY TO RESPOND TO THE NEED THERE. AS MY TOUR OF GREENDALE POINTED OUT AS WELL. I MEAN, THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME WAY THAT WE CAN ASSURE THOSE PEOPLE THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THERE SOMETIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE. AND MAYBE THE ANSWER IS SCALING BACK A COUPLE OF PROJECTS TO TO HELP. BUT THOSE ARE MY FIVE. MISS TYLER, I ONLY HAVE FOUR TOP. MY FIRST IS SILVER BLUFF. OPTION ONE. I FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE A REMEDY FOR A COUPLE ISSUES WE HAVE THERE. SOUTH AIKEN, MIDLAND VALLEY AND NORTH AUGUSTA MIDDLE. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO THE ONE THING I'LL NOTE WAS THAT AS WE WERE TALKING, MR. TRAXLER HAD MAYBE 1 OR 2 PEOPLE THAT MENTIONED SILVER BLUFF, BUT NOT A SPECIFIC OPTION. WAS IT JUST NOW? ONE. AND I DON'T KNOW, WITHOUT A. WITHOUT I DIDN'T. I DIDN'T MENTION AN OPTION, BUT I WILL. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK DOCTOR BRADLEY. I LIKE OPTION THREE. OKAY. THAT'S THE ONE THAT WOULD BUILD A MIDDLE SCHOOL ON SILVER BLUFF CAMPUS AND AND DO AWAY WITH GREENDALE AND JACKSON MIDDLE. GET RID OF TO MONEY PITS HAVE BEEN SUCKING US DRY FOR YEARS. OKAY, SO LET'S JUST SILVER BLUFF. OPTION TWO. I DIDN'T SPECIFY. OKAY, SO IF EVERYBODY IS ALL RIGHT, THIS WON'T TAKE VERY LONG. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A MINUTE TO PAUSE AND MAYBE PUT THOSE IN RANKED ORDER ON A DIFFERENT SHEET. WITH THE THE THE HIGH LEVEL BUDGET ESTIMATE NEXT TO IT, AND THEN WE CAN START SEEING HOW THIS MATERIALIZES BEFORE WE DO THAT. CAN I SPEAK TO THAT? MR. BROOME, BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT THIS AGAIN, I WANT TO JUST SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THESE SILVER BLUFF OPTIONS. OPTION ONE AND OPTION THREE BOTH WOULD EMPTY YOU ELLINGTON MIDDLE SCHOOL, WHICH WOULD THEN GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS GREENDALE. WHAT DO YOU HAVE ANY BALLPARK ON ON THAT. [00:50:01] SEE, WHEN WE WHEN WE PUT THIS INITIAL LIST TOGETHER, GREENDALE, WHICH IS ME COMING FROM AREA FIVE, I WOULD SAY OUT OF ALL MY SCHOOLS, IS IN THE MOST DIRE NEED OF ATTENTION. WAS NOT ON THE LIST BECAUSE THE OPTIONS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WOULD AUTOMATICALLY BRING GREENDALE INTO THE FOLD. WHEN IT EMPTY NEW ARLINGTON MIDDLE, IT WOULD GIVE US A BUILDING TO WORK TO PUT THEM IN AT A AT A FAIRLY REASONABLE PRICE, A GOOD BUILDING RIGHT ON THE HIGHWAY. SO THEY'RE NOT LISTED AS A SPECIFIC PROJECT, BUT OPTION TWO, WHICH I WOULD BE FINE WITH OTHER THAN THAT, DOESN'T ADDRESS GREENDALE. SO THEN WE'RE LEFT WITH THE THE BUILDING NEEDING THE MOST ATTENTION, NOT EVEN BEING IN THE FOLD, BECAUSE NEW ARLINGTON MIDDLE WOULD NOT, WOULD NOT BE VACATED FOR THEM TO MOVE TO. SO THE THOUGHT PROCESS IN EITHER EITHER 1 OR 03, IS THAT IT GIVES ENOUGH MOVEMENT THAT IT ADDRESSES JACKSON, IT ADDRESSES GREENDALE, AND IT ADDRESSES SILVER BLUFF. OFF. SO JUST BEAR THAT IN MIND THAT IF WE GO WITH OPTION TWO, THEN WE'RE LEAVING A BIG HOLE IN NEED WITH GREENDALE, WHICH IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, IS THE WORST OF AREA FIVE SCHOOLS. THANK YOU. SO BEAR WITH ME FOR A MOMENT, AND WE'RE GOING TO GET THIS SET UP FOR US TO REVIEW. THIS. BUT. IT WAS NICE SEEING YOU IN CHURCH. BLESS YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU MUST KNOW HOW CLUMSY. YOUR FATHER? YES. I'M SURE HE'S COMING BACK. JASON YEAH. SO. WHAT? ALL RIGHT. SO LOOK AT THE NUMBER THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET CLOSE TO IS 285. BUT JUST TO BE CLEAR IS MR. BROOME THE SAME AS OPTION TWO WAS ESSENTIALLY I THINK THAT A HIGH SCHOOL RENOVATION IN ADDITION. A NUMBER OF PEOPLE SEEM TO FAVOR OPTION ONE. [00:55:06] AND JUST SO THAT FOLKS KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THERE, THAT IS. QUITE ANYWAY. AND THEN THAT OPENS UP THE OLD HIGH SCHOOL, TWO MIDDLE SCHOOLS TO CONSOLIDATE. OKAY. CAN WE SEE THAT? OKAY. CAN I SAY ONE THING ABOUT THAT FROM A PERSPECTIVE? OPTION ONE OR OPTION THREE BOTH BASICALLY DO THE SAME THING. IT ALLOWS US TO ADDRESS ALL THE MAJOR NEEDS. HOWEVER, LOOKING AT THE ESTIMATES ON HERE, THERE'S ONLY A FEW MILLION OF DIFFERENCE IN BUILDING A HIGH SCHOOL OR MIDDLE SCHOOL. BUT YOU KNOW, EITHER WOULD EITHER WOULD DO THE JOB. AND I WOULD SAY THAT WHEN WE GO DOWN TO DOCTOR MURPHY, WHEN THEY START LOOKING AT IT MORE SERIOUSLY, IF IT GETS PAST, COULDN'T WE COME BACK AND SEE WHAT WAS MORE FAVORABLE AS FAR AS MONEY, BECAUSE THEY BOTH WOULD BE ON THE SAME. THEY BOTH WOULD BE ON THE SAME PLOT OF LAND, SO COULDN'T WE? I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS EITHER ONE WOULD DO THE JOB IF COME BACK IN THE MIDDLE SCHOOL WAS GOING TO BE A LOT CHEAPER BUILDING IT WITH THE HIGH SCHOOL RENOVATION TO BRING IT UP TO STANDARDS WAS, YOU KNOW, TENS OF MILLIONS CHEAPER THAN BUILDING THE HIGH SCHOOL. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M GETTING AT? YES, SIR. I WAS GOING TO BRING UP EARLIER WHEN YOU ALL WERE TALKING, THOUGH. JUST KEEP IN MIND, THE HIGH SCHOOL SPANS FOUR GRADE LEVELS, AND CURRENTLY THEY'RE AT 780 TO 800 KIDS. THE MIDDLE SCHOOL SPANS THREE GRADE LEVELS. AND EVEN COMBINING THEM, YOU'D BE JUST BREAKING OVER 500. SO THE MIDDLE SCHOOL WOULD BE MUCH SMALLER THAN THE HIGH SCHOOL WOULD BE. SO THUSLY, THE MIDDLE SCHOOL WOULD BE CHEAPER TO REPLACE TO TO BUILD NEW THAN A HIGH SCHOOL, TO BUILD NEW A HIGH SCHOOL, NEW THREE YEAR HIGH SCHOOL FOR 800 KIDS OFF THE TOP OF MY BRAIN, I WOULD STILL TELL YOU YOU'D BE LOOKING CLOSER TO $8,090 MILLION. ANOTHER THING TO CONSIDER ABOUT NEW ELLINGTON. IT IS NOT DESIGNED AS AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. IT'S DESIGNED FOR THREE GRADE LEVELS. SO TO GO NOW ADDING KINDERGARTEN THROUGH FIFTH GRADE. MR. CHIPMAN, I HAVE HIM KIND OF QUEUED UP TO GIVE US A QUICK LITTLE PRICE ESTIMATE OF IT. BUT, KEVIN, WE WOULD NEED YOU TO GO TO THE MICROPHONE. AND WHILE HE'S DOING THAT, I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT TOWN OR CITY COUNCIL HAS ALERTED ME, IN WHICH YOU PROBABLY ALREADY AWARE THEY'RE ABOUT TO THEY'VE GOT APPROVAL TO BUILD 800 HOMES IN ELLINGTON. SO YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO BE WHICH WE HAVEN'T SEEN IN AREA FIVE, BUT THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME HOUSING GROWTH IN AREA FIVE, WHICH MAY MAKE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT A LITTLE MORE IMPORTANT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YES. WE DID LOOK AT THAT YEARS AGO. AND THE PROBLEM WITH DOING THAT IS YOU'RE GOING TO NEED ANOTHER, PROBABLY 70,000FT² TO BRING THE ELEMENTARY TO THE MIDDLE. THE OTHER ISSUE THAT WILL BE CHALLENGING IS THAT WHERE THE GYM IS AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL, THAT WHOLE BUILDING REALLY NEEDS TO PROBABLY BE RENOVATED TO THE GROUND BECAUSE IT'S OLD. AND THEN AT THAT POINT, YOU COULD THEN ATTACH TO MAYBE WHERE THE LIBRARY IS AND FILL IN 70,000FT² FOR AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TO SO THAT GREENDALE COULD COME OVER. IT'S NOT JUST ADD A FEW 4K FIVE K CLASSES. THE OTHER CHALLENGE IS, YOU KNOW, THE BAND ROOM IS A LARGE MIDDLE SCHOOL BAND ROOM THAT WOULD NEED TO BE RECONFIGURED OR MADE INTO A MUSIC ROOM, I GUESS, FOR THE ELEMENTARY. SO THE LAND IS THERE AT NEW ELLINGTON, BUT IT WOULD IT WOULD STILL TAKE A 3637 MILLION TO TO ACCOMPLISH GETTING THE ELEMENTARY OVER THERE PLAY AREAS. JUST THAT WHOLE IT. I DON'T THINK YOU COULD DO IT FOR UNDER, SAY, 25 MILLION OR 26 MILLION. THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. DO WE HAVE PROPERTY TO BUILD A ELEMENTARY SCHOOL OR COULD WE? I MEAN, WOULD IT BE CHEAPER TO BUILD A NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ON THAT SAME PROPERTY? WELL, UNLESS WE HAVE A PLACE TO RELOCATE THE KIDS. IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A PHASED PROJECT. AND TYPICALLY A PHASED PROJECT COSTS MORE THAN TO BUILD IT ON A CLEAN SITE. I WAS TALKING ABOUT A CLEAN, A CLEAN MIDDLE. IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE WENT, IF WE WENT WITH OPTION TWO. BUT THEN WE REALLY WE REALLY GOT TO ADDRESS THIS GREENDALE NEED. IF WE RENOVATED SILVER BLUFF AND WENT WITH AN OPTION TO. [01:00:03] THAT INCLUDED DOING SOMETHING WITH GREENDALE OTHER THAN PUTTING A BAND-AID OR PUTTING LIPSTICK ON A PIG. WHERE WE WENT AND BUILT THEM A NEW SCHOOL, OR DID SOMETHING WITH THE OTHER MONEY, AND THEN JUST, YOU KNOW, THEN AT SOME POINT, WE'D HAVE TO COME BACK AND LOOK AT JACK. I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS ARE SURVIVING LIKE THEY ARE. I THINK IN THE REAL WORLD WE WOULD BE MUCH BETTER OFF COMBINING THEM. BUT SILVER BLUFF AND GREENDALE ARE THE TWO NEEDS THAT ARE EVEN, I CONSIDER MORE DIRE THAN JACKSON MIDDLE, WHICH HAS A NEED. BUT GREENDALE, WE REALLY NEED TO DO SOMETHING WITH GREENDALE. I WILL SAY ONE THING, YOU KNOW. ONE MORE THING. NEW ARLINGTON'S CAMPUS, IF YOU KNOW IT. THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE CAMPUS WHERE THE KITCHEN CAFETERIA IS, WE OWN ALL THAT. SO A WING PROBABLY COULD BE BUILT DOUBLE STOREY THAT THEN ATTACHES TO THAT KITCHEN. THEN YOU COULD UNLOAD THAT BACK GYM AREA AND TAKE IT DOWN SO THE SITE AT LEAST COULD HANDLE CONVERTING IT TO A ELEMENTARY. IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO BE CHEAP. MR. SMITH. I'M SITTING HERE AND I'M LISTENING TO US, AND WE ALL HAVE GOT ONE HECK OF A PROBLEM THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE WITH, LET'S JUST SAY A BUILD A BATTLESHIP AND TRY TO USE CANOES TO BUILD IT WITH, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE NEAR THE MONEY WE NEED TO SATISFY ALL THE PROJECTS THAT NEED TO BE LOOKED AT. ASP. BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THIS. I'M AFRAID WE'RE LOOKING TOO MUCH AT WHAT WOULD BE POPULAR THEN WHAT THE NEEDS ARE. YOU'VE HEARD MR. BROOME TALK ABOUT GREENDALE. IT IS IN SHAPE. IT NEEDS SOME HELP. YOU'VE HEARD ME TALK ABOUT 13 MOBILE UNITS OUT AT MY SCHOOL. ONE OF MY SCHOOLS THAT KIDS HAVE TO GO OUT INTO THE RAIN, THE HEAT AND THE COLD EVERY DAY. I THINK WE WE NEED TO LOOK INTO OURSELVES AND SEE WHAT REALLY IS NEEDED FOR, FOR OUR KIDS. I KNOW WE GOT TO GET THE REFERENDUM PASSED TO GET EVERYTHING DONE, BUT FOLKS, WE'RE ABOUT TO KIDS AND WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHERE OUR GREATEST NEEDS ARE AND TRY TO WORK SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER TO HELP SOLVE THOSE PROBLEMS. IT'S LIKE I SAID EARLIER, GLOVERSVILLE DOESN'T NEED A NEW SCHOOL. IT NEEDS CLASSROOMS AND BATHROOMS. GREENDALE NEEDS A NEW SCHOOL OR SOMETHING, BECAUSE THAT SCHOOL WAS BUILT IN THE LATE 50S AND IT WASN'T BUILT TO BE THERE AS LONG AS IT WAS BUILT AS IT HAS BEEN. SO I WANT US TO LOOK AT OURSELVES AND THINK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING. ARE WE DOING WHAT'S BEST FOR OUR KIDS? ARE WE DOING WHAT MAY BE THE POPULAR THING? THAT'S ALL. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. SMITH. IF WE LOOK AT THE WE CAN. I WISH WE COULD STICK IT UP. THERE IT IS ON THE WALL. SO AT LEAST WHEN WE WENT THROUGH IT THE FIRST TIME, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT THE THE HIGH SCHOOLS IN NORTH AUGUSTA MIDDLE SCHOOL HAD OVERWHELMING SUPPORT AND THAT THERE WAS BASICALLY PEOPLE WERE SPLIT ON HOW WE SHOULD HANDLE SILVER BLUFF HIGH SCHOOL, RIGHT. SO THE FIRST THREE ON THAT RANK LIST, THAT IS GETTING YOU CLOSE TO IS ABOUT $197 MILLION ON THAT ROUGH BUDGET ESTIMATE. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT $100 MILLION LEFT WITH THAT. WE'RE NOT TAKING A VOTE RIGHT NOW, BUT I'M JUST SAYING, IF YOU LOOK THINK ABOUT IT RIGHT, WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US? THERE SEEM TO BE A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR THOSE. THE FIRST THREE YEAR, 100 MILLION. AND THEN WE WOULD THERE WAS A LOT OF SUPPORT TO DO SOMETHING WITH SILVER BLUFF. THERE'S WILDLY DIFFERENT COSTS WITH THAT DEPENDING ON HOW YOU DO THAT. AND THEN THE OTHER PROJECTS CAME AFTER. SO. WOULD PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THEY'RE BEING RUSHED IF WE AGREE ON THOSE TOP THREE? OKAY. THE TOP THREE ON THAT PAPER. [01:05:01] TOP THREE OR TOP FOUR? THREE. THREE. SO THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE SILVER BLUFF? NO, BECAUSE WE'RE KIND OF. I THINK WE NEED MORE DISCUSSION. AND WE'RE SPLIT ON HOW TO HANDLE SILVER BLUFF. IN MY OPINION, SILVER BLUFF SHOULD STILL BE INCLUDED. NOW WE CAN DECIDE LATER ON WHICH OPTION. BUT I THINK THAT SILVER BLUFF SHOULD BE INCLUDED. YEAH. I'M NOT EXCLUDING MISS TYLER. I'M NOT EXCLUDING SILVER BLUFF. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET WE HAVE OVERWHELMING SUPPORT FOR THOSE THREE PROJECTS, AND I JUST KIND OF WANT TO PUT THAT ASIDE WITH SOME THAT WE'VE, WE'VE THERE IS OVERWHELMING SUPPORT ON THAT AND KIND OF PUT THAT ON IN THE, ON THE BALANCE SHEET. RIGHT. SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE HAVE, WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH. RIGHT. AND THEN WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT HOW DO WE WANT TO HANDLE SILVER BLUFF. HOW WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO WITH THE OTHER PROJECTS WITH THE MONEY THAT'S LEFT? I'M JUST STATING THE OBVIOUS THAT IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE PRETTY. IT LOOKED LIKE WE WERE IN AGREEMENT ON THOSE TOP THREE, AND THAT WAS $197 MILLION. AND I DO. I AGREE WITH YOU, BUT ALLOW ME TO EXPLAIN MY RATIONALE WITH THIS. HAD WE NOT HAD OPTION ONE, TWO AND THREE UP THERE FOR SILVER BLUFF, SILVER BLUFF WOULD HAVE GOTTEN AN OVERWHELMING NUMBER OF VOTES AS WELL. SO I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS I THINK THAT WE SHOULD DECIDE ON A TOP FOUR, AND THEN LATER WE STILL CAN DECIDE ON WHICH OPTION BEST SUITS SILVER BLUFF. BUT I THINK WE SHOULD JUST DECIDE ON THE TOP FOUR, BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT GOT THE MOST VOTES. THAT IS JUST MY OPINION. OKAY. NO, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. I WAS JUST TRYING TO WORK THROUGH IT. ALL THREE HIGH SCHOOLS SEEM TO HAVE SIMILAR SUPPORT, BUT WE WANTED TO HANDLE IT DIFFERENT WAYS. SO LET'S TURN THE DISCUSSION TO THAT. AS FAR AS IF YOU LOOK AT I'M JUST SAYING THIS, JUST TRYING TO HELP GUIDE THE DISCUSSION. ROUGHLY SPEAKING, LET'S SAY THERE'S ABOUT $100 MILLION LEFT, GIVE OR TAKE. RIGHT. AND YOU'VE GOT THE OPTION TO REPLACE SILVER BLUFF HIGH SCHOOL WITH A NEW ONE AND START, YOU KNOW, MOVING SCHOOLS AROUND THIS AND THAT BLOWS BY THAT. TO THE POINT WHERE I'M NOT SURE WE CAN COMMIT TO THAT. RIGHT. EVEN EVEN WITH, LIKE, UPSIDE THAT WE DON'T PARTICULARLY WANT TO USE. YOU KNOW, THAT SALES TAX COMES IN HIGHER THAN YOU THOUGHT AND YOU USE PAYGO AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I THINK THAT WOULD PUT YOU UP AROUND 227. EXCUSE ME, 327 MILLION. BLESS YOU. SO BUT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT. SO THAT'S THE THAT'S THE DISCUSSION THAT I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM FOLKS ABOUT. I HAVE A QUESTION. YEAH. MISS RHINEHART-JACKSON IN ORDER FOR SILVER BLUFF TO BE PUT LISTED IN THE TOP FOUR OR ON THE REFERENDUM, IS THAT WHAT WE CALL IT? NO, NO. I'M SORRY. IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE LISTED ON THE BALLOT DOES THE SPECIFIC SCOPE HAS TO BE LISTED AS TO WHAT WE DO OR WHAT WE INTEND TO DO TO SILVER BLUFF? LIKE A RENOVATE PART A OR B RENOVATE PART B? NO, I THINK, MISS HEIZER, IF YOU'D LIKE TO APPROACH THE MICROPHONE. GOOD EVENING Y'ALL. I APPRECIATE Y'ALL REALLY WORKING THROUGH TOUGH ISSUES BECAUSE ALL OF THESE PROJECTS YOU SAY YOU NEED. YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ALL OF THE DETAILS OF THE PROJECT, BUT THE THE BALLOT HAS TO ADEQUATELY INFORM THE PUBLIC OF WHAT THEY'RE VOTING ON. SO I WOULD SAY THAT THERE ARE THREE OPTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SHARED WITH Y'ALL. I THINK YOU NEED TO DECIDE ON AN OPTION. AND THAT'S HOW IT SORT OF DESCRIBED ON THE BALLOT. OKAY. SO YEP. SO THANK YOU. YEAH I WOULD AGREE. JUST FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING A BRAND NEW HIGH SCHOOL VERSUS RENOVATING ONE. IT'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE. SO WE HAVE TO BE CLEAR ON THAT. CAN I I'M SORRY. IN THAT CASE I STILL AGREE WITH THE TOP THREE, BUT I WOULD GO WITH OPTION NUMBER TWO. OKAY, I'M CHANGING FROM OPTION ONE TO OPTION TWO. YEAH. CAN I, DOCTOR HANKS. YES. SO JUST TO ADD ON WHAT MISS RHINEHART-JACKSON JUST SAID, THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING IN ORDER TO HAVE SILVER BLUFF AS A PART OF THIS LIST. WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE. MONEY WISE. IT WILL ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO BE OPTION TWO OR WE ARE TOTALLY OUT OF AND OVER BUDGET FOR EVERYTHING. SO IF THE ONLY WAY WE CAN PROCEED FORWARD WITH TAKING THE VOTE OF THE TOP THREE OR [01:10:06] MAKING IT THE TOP FOUR WOULD HAVE TO BE ADDING SILVER BLUFF. OPTION TWO. MR. MOULTON. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, I THINK WE'VE HEARD ENOUGH THAT OPTIONS ONE AND THREE WILL NOT SOLVE THE GREENDALE PROBLEM. THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ADDITIONAL ROUGHLY $36 MILLION TO SOLVE THE GREENDALE PROBLEM. SO IF WE'RE LOOKING AT A HIGH SCHOOL, I THINK OPTION TWO KIND OF JUMPS OUT AT US. SO. YES, SIR. OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? SO BASED ON DISCUSSION AND THANK YOU FOR THE PUSHBACK, MISS TYLER. YEAH. THERE YOU GO. WE'LL GET THERE EITHER WAY. BUT THE THE WHAT I WOULD LIKE THE BOARD TO ENTERTAIN IS THE FOLLOWING MOTION. IS THAT BASED ON THE, THE SCOPE, YOU KNOW, BASED ON WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED TO US, I MOVE THAT WE INCLUDE THE PROJECTS FOR RENOVATIONS AND ADDITIONS AT SOUTH AIKEN HIGH SCHOOL. MIDLAND VALLEY HIGH SCHOOL. SILVER BLUFF HIGH SCHOOL. OPTION TWO, WHICH IS JUST RENOVATIONS AND ADDITIONS TO THE HIGH SCHOOL. AND RENOVATIONS AND ADDITIONS TO NORTH AUGUSTA MIDDLE SCHOOL. TO THE RESOLUTION FOR BOTH THE EDUCATION CAPITAL PROJECT SALES TAX AND THE BOND ISSUANCE. I'LL SECOND. SO MISS RHINEHART-JACKSON HAD THE SECOND ON THAT MOTION. DISCUSSION. DOES THIS PRECLUDE IT? IF WE PASS THIS MOTION, DOES THAT PRECLUDE LOOKING AT HOW A PROJECT AT SOUTH AIKEN HIGH SCHOOL, FOR EXAMPLE, COULD HELP KENNEDY? I DON'T THINK SO. IN OTHER WORDS, BUILDING A COMPETITION GYM. WE COULD DO IT UNDER THE GUISE OF DOING THAT. YOU KNOW, IT SAYS UNDER THE DESCRIPTION FOR SOUTH AIKEN HIGH, BUILD A NEW GYM. WELL, IT DOESN'T SAY THAT KENNEDY COULDN'T USE IT. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S TRUE TODAY. SO AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS REALLY ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION, BUT I WOULD SAY THE THE KIDS AT KENNEDY USE SPACES AT SOUTH AIKEN HIGH SCHOOL FOR VARIOUS. I'M NOT SAYING OFTEN, BUT FOR VARIOUS THINGS ATHLETIC FIELDS, THE GYM, ETC.. AND, AND WHEN THEY CONSIDERED BUILDING THIS NEW GYM AS TO WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD IT COULD COULD IT? IT WOULDN'T PRECLUDE THEM FROM LOOKING AT THE MOST CONVENIENT LOCATION TO BE SHARED BY TWO SCHOOLS. NO, WE'RE WE'RE NOT THAT DETAILED. DO YOU WANT AN ANSWER? I MEAN, I THINK THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES IS TO LOOK AT SOMETHING CREATIVE AND NOT JUST LOCK INTO ONE LITTLE. EVERYTHING'S GOT TO BE SPENT AT. SOUTH AIKEN WHEN WHEN THERE'S A NEED RIGHT NEXT DOOR WITHIN 100 YARDS. AND THAT COULD ADEQUATELY, MIGHT BE ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED. AND IT DOESN'T HURT ANYBODY TO DO THAT. IT JUST HELPS EXTRA PEOPLE. MOST OFTEN WHEN WE'RE DESCRIBING A PROJECT FOR A SCHOOL. LIKE RENOVATIONS AND ADDITIONS. AND EVEN IF YOU MENTION A GYM. MOST PEOPLE THINK IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WHERE THE SCHOOL IS OR YOU TALK ABOUT MOVING THE SCHOOL. SO TO HAVE FLEXIBILITY, YOU COULD HAVE A SEPARATE LINE ITEM PROJECT THAT IS A NEW SCHOOL WILL, I MEAN, EXCUSE ME, A NEW GYM NEAR SOUTH AIKEN HIGH, AND THAT COULD BE ON OR OFF. BUT BUT THAT'S IT REALLY WOULD BE BETTER IF Y'ALL COULD MAKE A DECISION ABOUT WHERE THE GYM WOULD BE, BECAUSE IF IT'S GOING TO BE A SHARED COMPETITION FACILITY, THEN THAT'S WHAT THE REFERENDUM SHOULD SAY. AND THEN BOTH PEOPLE WILL KNOW THE CONSTITUENTS FROM BOTH HIGH SCHOOLS WOULD KNOW. BUT I MEAN, I CAN'T WORDSMITH IT, BUT BUT WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE IDEAS IN Y'ALL'S MINDS THAT AREN'T EXPRESSED IN THE BALLOT. AND THEN WHEN SOMETHING MATERIALIZES THAT WASN'T REALLY INDICATED ON THE BALLOT, AND YOU GO BACK AND SAY, WELL, THAT'S WHAT THEY INTENDED TO DO THE WHOLE TIME, THAT'S BAD. THAT'S THE KIND OF THING WE WANT TO AVOID. BUT GOOD. GOOD POINT. BRADLEY WAS THE PROBLEM WE HAVE HERE IS WE'RE GENERATING IDEAS AT THE LAST MINUTE, AND WE OUGHT TO VOTE TONIGHT ON WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WHEN WE HAVEN'T EVEN EXPLORED A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN EXPLORED THERE. AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK WE CAN FIX THAT TONIGHT OR PROBABLY FIX IT AT ALL, BUT BUT IT IS A CRITICISM OF THE PROCESS THAT WE'VE USED TO GET HERE. WE SHOULD HAVE HAD THESE KIND OF DISCUSSIONS MONTHS AGO. [01:15:02] I MEAN, I WOULD HAVE FELT MUCH BETTER ABOUT IT IF IF I'D HAVE HAD FACILITIES. PEOPLE LOOK AT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT AND SAY, HEY, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA, OR THAT IDEA STINKS, OR WE CAN'T DO IT, OR WE CAN DO IT, OR THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD COST AND THAT KIND OF THING. AND THAT MIGHT HAVE DONE IT, BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD ABOUT IT. IF THEY DID. DOCTOR MURPHY, DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT? YES. DOCTOR BRADLEY, WE DID HAVE THAT DISCUSSION VERY BRIEFLY IN THE FACILITIES, FOLKS, AT THE END OF THE DAY. A HIGH SCHOOL COMPETITION GYM. IT WOULD. THE HIGH SCHOOL WOULD PREFER TO HAVE IT OF THEIR OWN. NOW THEY DO SHARE FACILITIES. AND SO THIS IS GOING TO BE AN ENTIRELY NEW GYM AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, WHICH IS CO-LOCATED BASICALLY WITH THE MIDDLE SCHOOL. SO WHETHER IT'S ATTACHED OR NOT, THE MIDDLE SCHOOL WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY. BUT IN TALKING TO ATHLETIC DIRECTOR, I CAN I CAN GUARANTEE YOU IT'S GOING TO BE, HEY, SOUTH AIKEN HIGH SCHOOL GETS THE FIRST DIBS ON IT. NOW, IF IT'S AN OFF NIGHT, THEN OF COURSE THE MIDDLE SCHOOL WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PLAY THERE. DOCTOR MURPHY, WE AREN'T SO AFFLUENT THAT WE CAN HONOR WHAT PEOPLE WANT. WE HAVE TO GIVE PEOPLE WHAT THEY NEED FIRST AND THEN WORRY ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT. I MEAN, YEAH, EVERY WHEN I WAS WHEN I WAS ADA SUPERINTENDENT, I WANTED EVERYTHING FROM MY SCHOOL. AND I DIDN'T WANT ANYBODY ELSE TO HAVE ANY. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT'S THE SORT OF SELFISH PART OF BEING HUMAN. BUT BUT I THINK WE ARE GOING TO COME TO THE REALIZATION THAT MONEY IS NOT PLENTIFUL IN THIS SCHOOL DISTRICT. I THINK WE'VE ENJOYED A VERY PROSPEROUS PERIOD. I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW WE DID IT, BUT COMING FROM FROM MY 40 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE WITH THIS SCHOOL DISTRICT, WE'VE ALWAYS HAD TO STRUGGLE TO MEET THE BILLS. AND THE REASON OUR BUILDINGS ARE THE REASON WE'VE GOT TO GREENDALE AND GLOVERSVILLE AND ALL THIS IS BECAUSE WE NEVER HAD MONEY TO BUILD BUILDINGS BEFORE THIS LAST REFERENDUM. WHEN WE GOT TO 1%, THE 1% HAS MADE THIS DISTRICT A DIFFERENT DISTRICT. AND THE VOTERS NEED TO HEAR THAT, AND THEY NEED TO KNOW IT, BECAUSE AIKEN HIGH SCHOOL WAS A DUMP UNTIL WE GOT THE 1%. I MEAN, I WAS IN CHARGE OF THAT BUILDING. MY WIFE TAUGHT THERE FOR 21 YEARS, AND MY SON WENT WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL THERE, AND IT WAS AN EMBARRASSMENT. PEOPLE CRITICIZED IT BECAUSE WE SPENT 70 MILLION, I MEAN, MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON IT. BUT MY GOD, IT WAS, YOU KNOW, ALL YOU HAD. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PIPES BEING EXPOSED. THE HALLWAY WAS FULL OF PIPES RUNNING DOWN THE HALL. YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK LIKE YOU WERE IN A NEW YORK SEWER OR WALKING DOWN THE HALL AT AIKEN HIGH SCHOOL BECAUSE OF ALL THE UTILITIES AND EVERYTHING THAT WAS IN THE CEILING. SO. SO, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT REALLY PUSHING THIS PARTICULAR THING, BUT I'M I'M PUSHING THE MINDSET. GUYS, WE GOT TO LOOK AT NEED. YOU KNOW. I'M DONE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION. SO WE MR. BROOME. I GOT A QUESTION. IF WE VOTE THIS AND THEN GREENDALE IS LEFT OUT. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH GREENDALE AND GLOVERSVILLE? I AGREE, AND GLOVERSVILLE. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? BECAUSE GREENDALE, WE CAN'T KEEP SENDING THESE KIDS TO THESE BUILDINGS LOOK LIKE THIS. AND. OUT OF ALL THE NEEDS, WHICH I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT SOME OF THESE OPTIONS WOULD. AND THEN THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED WITH THE DISTRICT. SO SO YOU KNOW, MR. JOHN. TONIGHT'S THE FIRST I'VE HEARD ABOUT THAT KIND OF MONEY TO. I HAD NO IDEA IT WOULD TAKE THAT KIND OF MONEY TO CONVERT THAT SCHOOL. THAT WAS NOT THE IMPRESSION I HAD. SO I'M GONNA HAVE A HARD TIME SUPPORTING ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T DO SOMETHING FOR GREENDALE. THAT SCHOOL. I WISH WE'D TAKE A LITTLE BUS TOUR TO IT AND LET EVERYBODY LOOK AT IT. YOU KNOW, WE WE ENJOY AND TAKE FOR GRANTED. AND I SAID, SOMETIMES YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE MISSING UNTIL YOU SEE IT. AND SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD, SOME OF THE SCHOOLS I'VE WENT AND LOOKED, WALKED IN. I THOUGHT I WAS WALKING IN PALACES, WHICH I THINK IS GREAT, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW THAT A LOT OF THESE SCHOOLS WAS THIS NICE BECAUSE OF WHERE I WAS FROM? AND OF COURSE, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE MISSING TILL YOU SEE IT. SO BUT GREENDALE IS A NEED. IT'S NOT A WANT. I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THAT. AND MY QUESTION IS, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? AND I THINK GLOVERSVILLE, WITH ALL THESE MOBILE UNITS, IS THE SAME WAY. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT THESE THESE SITUATIONS IF WE CAN'T ADDRESS THEM IN THIS ONE SENSE? BECAUSE THESE ARE I DON'T THINK THESE ARE WANTS. I THINK THESE ARE NEEDS. YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S THE QUESTION TO THE BOARD. [01:20:02] MR.. SMITH. MR.. BROOME PRETTY MUCH SAID WHAT I SAID EARLIER. AND, YOU KNOW, WE GOT TO LOOK AT WHAT IS GOING ON AND WHERE OUR DEFICIENCIES ARE AND WHO HAS GOT THE WORST DEFICIENCIES, NOT WHO'S GOT THE MOST VOTES NECESSARILY, BUT WHO'S GOT THE MOST EFFICIENCIES. AND THAT'S I GOT ON THIS BOARD AND I SPENT A CAREER IN EDUCATION FIGHTING FOR CHILDREN. AND I'M UP HERE FIGHTING FOR CHILDREN BECAUSE I SEE THE NEED. I KNOW BUCKETS ARE PUT OUT IN THE HALLS AND POSSIBLY INTO CLASSROOMS TO AT GREENDALE. YOU GOT KIDS COMING OUT OF 13 MOBILE UNITS GOING INTO THE BUILDING. ACTUALLY, 12 OF THEM ARE ACTIVE WITH KIDS ONES. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS FOR REAL. THOSE ARE DEFINITE NEEDS THAT THE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY IN OUR COUNTY CAN CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND. I WOULD HOPE A LOT OF THIS OTHER STUFF IS DEFINITELY NEEDED AS WELL. BUT WE GOT TO RANK WHAT THE NEEDS ARE MOST. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS ON THIS MOTION? SO WHAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR TO INCLUDE THE SOUTH AIKEN HIGH SCHOOL PROJECT RENOVATIONS AND ADDITIONS, RENOVATIONS AND ADDITIONS TO MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL RENOVATIONS AND ADDITIONS TO NORTH AUGUSTA MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND RENOVATIONS AND ADDITIONS TO SILVER BLUFF HIGH SCHOOL, WHICH WE'VE BEEN CALLING OPTION TWO TO ADD THAT TO THE RESOLUTION FOR THE TO BE INCLUDED IN THE RESOLUTION FOR THE EDUCATION CAPITAL PROJECT SALES TAX AND ALSO THE RESOLUTION FOR BOND ISSUANCE. WE'VE HAD OUR DISCUSSION. THAT'S A RESTATEMENT OF THE MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT'S SIX IN FAVOR. ALL THOSE OPPOSED, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT'S THREE MOTION CARRIES. 6 TO 3. SO WHAT? WE'RE WHAT WE'RE LEFT WITH THERE APPROXIMATELY. AND THESE ARE. EXCUSE ME. YEAH, I GET THAT RIGHT. ONE 4187. I GOTTA GET THIS. 60. SO THAT'S A THAT'S ABOUT A 257. AS FAR AS WE WERE LOOKING AGAINST GETTING CLOSE TO A TARGET OF 285. SO $30 MILLION, GIVE OR TAKE. AND THEN WE SHOULD ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT CONTINGENCY PROJECTS. BEYOND THAT, BECAUSE THE HISTORY WITH THE SALES TAX HAS BEEN AT LEAST THE PAST TEN YEARS, THE RETURNS HAVE BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN WHAT WAS PROJECTED. DOCTOR HANKS, DID YOU SAY WE WERE AT 257, APPROXIMATELY? YEAH. SO IF WE HAVE A LITTLE LEFT OVER IN TALKING ABOUT AND LISTENING TO MR. BROOME GREENDALE, HOW MANY STUDENTS ATTEND GREENDALE. IT DIDN'T MAKE THE LIST, BUT APPARENTLY THE CONDITION IS BAD. IS IT A RENOVATED OPTION, OR IS IT A TOTAL TEAR DOWN AND NEEDS TO BE REDONE? I'D LIKE TO. I WOULD SAY THAT WITH GREENDALE, THE EMERGENT NEED RIGHT NOW IS THE ROOF. WE WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE ROOF. THERE'S ALSO A PROBLEM WITH THE. WELL, THE WASTEWATER. IT FLOODS THE ENTIRE CAMPUS. FLOODS? THERE'S ACTUALLY NO DRAINS ON THE CAMPUS. WHEN IT WAS CONSTRUCTED, I GUESS IT WAS PRE WASTEWATER MANAGEMENT. SO THERE ARE SOME ISSUES WITH THAT CAMPUS IN AND OF ITSELF. IT SITS AT THE BOTTOM OF A HILL, KIND OF IN A BOWL. AGAIN, ONCE YOU'RE INSIDE THE BUILDING, IT'S NOT NEARLY AS BAD. JUST THE EXTERIOR OF IT LOOKS VERY RUNDOWN. INSIDE IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE PLEASANT. BUT THEY DO HAVE TO DEAL WITH EVERY SINGLE TIME IT RAINS, THEY DEAL WITH. AND WHEN WE. WE SEAL A LEAK, IT JUST MOVES. IT GOES RIGHT DOWN THE HALLWAY TO THE NEXT CLASSROOM. SO IF YOU WANT TO SIMPLY REPAIR GREENDALE, SIMPLY REPAIR. YOU'RE STILL LOOKING AT A MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT. THE ISSUE, I GUESS, TO YOUR FIRST PART OF THE QUESTION IS 287 KIDS. SO WE'D BE WE'D BE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY IN THAT SCHOOL, AND THAT SCHOOL IS REALLY AT THE END OF LIFE. I MEAN, IT'S IT'S KIND OF DONE. ITS TIME. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO THIS IS THIS IS WHERE IT GETS EVEN MORE DIFFICULT. BUT THIS IS WHERE, YOU KNOW, OPEN TO OTHER DISCUSSION OR OTHER EMOTIONS. HOW MUCH MONEY WE GOT LEFT OVER PURELY FROM THE 285. [01:25:03] YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT $30 MILLION AND THE. SO. MAY I ASK A QUESTION, MR. SMITH? HOW MUCH? 8% MONEY CAN WE TIE IN WITH THIS, AND WHEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO TIE THIS IN? SO OUR 8% MONEY CURRENTLY WE HAVE TWO MORE YEARS OF SUPPORT. I COULD BE WRONG. IT COULD BE TWO MORE YEARS OF SUPPORT WITH WAGENER-SALLEY HIGH AND THEN THREE YEARS OF SUPPORT FOR HIGHLAND SPRINGS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. SO THAT WILL PUT US ROUGHLY AT YEAR SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT AND NINE SIX YEARS OUT. YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY WE CAN'T WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT KIND OF TIME. I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE BUILDING THAT'S GOING ON OVER THERE IN AREA THREE EVERY THIRD BUILDING HAS A KID THAT'S GOING TO BE A FLOOD OF KIDS COMING IN, AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY EXTRA SPACE IN EVERY THREE. I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO FORCE IT'S GOING TO FORCE SOME CHOICES THAT PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO MAKE. YEAH. SO BUT BUT I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE WE CAN'T JUST WAVE A MAGIC WAND AND BUILD BUILDINGS. I MEAN, IT TAKES A WHILE TO GET THEM BUILT, RIGHT. AND I DON'T THINK WE CAN STAND SIX YEARS OF GROWTH OVER THERE. ALL THAT GRANITEVILLE LAND THAT WAS LOCKED UP FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS WENT ON THE MARKET ABOUT TEN, 15 YEARS AGO, AND NOW IT'S JUST BEEN SUCKED UP AND IT'S ALL BEING DEVELOPED AT ONE TIME. AND THAT, TO ME, SAYS IT'S GOING TO DUMP HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF KIDS INTO THAT AREA. AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NO SURPLUS ROOMS AT ALL IN AREA THREE. IN FACT, I HEAR NEED AT THE HIGH SCHOOL HERE. NEED AT GLOVERSVILLE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING A NEW YOU ELEMENTARY SCHOOL OVER THERE. AND OF COURSE, THAT'S GONE BY THE WAYSIDE NOW BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BUILD SECOND GYMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT FOR HIGH SCHOOL. I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S A WISE, WISE WAY TO PROCEED. BUT THE DECISIONS MADE SO MR.. SILAS. YEAH. TALKING ABOUT THE FIFTH PROJECT THAT FOR ME WAS, WAS ADDITIONAL ELEMENTARY CAPACITY IN AREA THREE. GOSH, AS MUCH AS I WANT TO TAKE CARE OF GLOVERSVILLE AND EVEN GREENDALE, YOU KNOW THE NEED LOOKING AT HOW OVERCROWDED BIRD IS. AND I THINK GRANITEVILLE ELEMENTARY IS THE SAME WAY. THAT'S REALLY WHAT JUSTIFIED ME GOING TOWARD NEW ELEMENTARY CAPACITY, BECAUSE REPLACING THE MOBILES, WHICH IS TERRIBLY NEEDED AT GLOVERSVILLE, IS NOT GOING NOT GOING TO RELIEVE CAPACITY AT BIRD. RIGHT. AND THAT'S ULTIMATELY WHAT SWAYED ME TO TO SUPPORT ADDITIONAL ELEMENTARY CAPACITY IN AREA THREE, BUT I GUESS DEPENDING ON ON RECEIPTS THERE MAY NOT BE ENOUGH MONEY THERE TO TO DO THAT AS A IN ITS ENTIRETY. A NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IF YOU'RE IF WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT 30 MILLION. RIGHT. SO YOU HAVE TO MAYBE MAYBE IT'S TIME. MAYBE YOU SHOULD RECONSIDER THAT, YOU KNOW, AS A FIFTH PROJECT, WHAT WE SHOULD DO WITH IT. RIGHT. AND ONE OF THE THINGS SO THAT I THINK WE SHOULD TALK AGAIN ABOUT HOW WE ARRIVED AT THE 285 AND MAYBE AND WHAT THE HISTORY HAS BEEN IN THE LAST TEN YEARS. AND I THINK WE REALLY SHOULD ALSO TALK ABOUT CONTINGENCY PROJECTS. SO THE CAN WE HAVE A DISCUSSION OR SOMEONE REVIEW WITH US HOW WE ARRIVED AT THE 285 JUST SO WE REMEMBER THE ASSUMPTIONS. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, BOARD, IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE WITH YOU. THE WAY WE ARRIVED AT THE $285 MILLION NUMBER IS WITHIN YOUR ENABLING LEGISLATION THAT GAVE YOU THE ABILITY TO ENACT AN EDUCATIONAL CAPITAL PROJECT SALES TAX. IT SAYS THAT THE FIRST 10% GOES OFF TO PROPERTY TAX RELIEF. AND THEN IT SAYS THAT THAT YOU CAN BOND OUT 90% OF THE REMAINING AMOUNT SO THAT THAT PULLS YOU DOWN TO 81% OF WHAT THE PROJECTIONS ARE. LOOKING BACK AT WHAT THE COLLECTIONS HAVE BEEN IN THE PROJECTIONS GOING FORWARD YOU KNOW, WE WERE BACK IN 16 AND 17. THE CAPITAL PROJECT SALES TAX GENERATED $17 MILLION. FOR 2023, IT WAS 28 MILLION. SO WE WE EXPERIENCED BIG GROWTH. THERE WAS A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT HAVE CHANGED. THERE WAS THE PANDEMIC. AND THEN THERE WAS ONLINE SALES BECAME THEY BEGAN COLLECTING THOSE TAXES. [01:30:03] AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE WERE UP BY 3%, 5%, 7%, 5%, 15%, TEN, SIX AND THEN ONE. AND SO IT'S BEEN IT HAS BEEN UP. BUT THE THE ESTIMATES THAT WE GOT FROM THE OFFICE OF FISCAL AFFAIRS, THEY HAVE A FLAT 5% COMPOUNDED GROWTH RATE. SO WHILE YES WE CAN BOND OUT 285 AND YOU ALL ARE ONE OF THE ONLY DISTRICTS IN THE STATE UNDER THIS LEGISLATION THAT GIVES IT THAT SPECIFIC OF A NUMBER. SO THAT'S WHERE THE 285 CAME FROM. YOU ALSO HAVE 9% THAT'S GOING TO BE AVAILABLE FOR EITHER ONE OF TWO THINGS. IT CAN BE USED FOR PAY AS YOU GO PROJECTS, OR IT COULD BE A CONTINGENCY IF SOMETHING WERE TO NOT HAPPEN BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE SALES TAX, WHEN WE SELL THE BONDS, THE BONDS ARE SOLD AS GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS, FULL FAITH AND CREDIT AND TAXING POWER OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. AND SO TO THE EXTENT THAT THE SALES TAX IS AVAILABLE, ITS SERVICES, AND THERE'S NO MILEAGE. IF THE SALES TAX IS NOT AVAILABLE AND YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY THERE FOR IT, THEN THERE WOULD BE MILEAGE THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE ADDED. SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ANYBODY WANTS TO HAVE HAPPEN. IS MILEAGE BE ADDED FOR THESE BONDS. SO THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO LOOK AT. HAVE THE 9% THAT'S SET ASIDE FOR PAY AS YOU GO PROJECTS. AND THE TOTAL AMOUNT FOR THAT IS JUST OVER $35.8 MILLION, ALMOST $35.9 MILLION. SO YOU'VE GOT MORE THAN 285 TO WORK WITH. SO YOU HAVE TWO DIFFERENT QUESTIONS THAT WILL BE ON THE BALLOT. ONE WOULD BE AN AMOUNT OF UP TO 285 IN BONDS THAT WOULD FUND PROJECTS THAT WOULD BE PAID FOR WITH THOSE BONDS. THEN YOU HAVE YOUR SALES TAX QUESTION AND YOUR SALES TAX QUESTION COULD HAVE ADDITIONAL PROJECTS THAT MAY NOT BE INCLUDED ON THE BOND QUESTION, OR IT CAN BE THE SAME AMOUNT JUST BECAUSE THE PROJECTS ON THERE, IT MAY NOT NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE, BUT YOU CAN'T USE THE MONEY FOR A PROJECT THAT'S NOT LISTED IN THE QUESTIONS. THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. GREAT. QUESTION, MR. SMITH? NO, I JUST SOMEWHERE OR OTHER, I MAY HAVE GOTTEN SOME BAD INFORMATION BECAUSE I WAS TOLD THAT IF MORE MONEY WERE USED, WE COULD PUT THAT TOWARDS ADDITIONAL PROJECTS. BUT NOW. AND I LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I DON'T MEAN TO PUT YOU IN A BAD WAY, BUT NOW YOU'RE SAYING WE NEED TO HAVE THEM LISTED AS A CONTINGENCY OR AS MONEY COMES IF THEY'RE PAY AS YOU GO. I MEAN, YOU LOOK AT IT AS TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. ONE, THE BOND MONEY THAT YOU GET IN, YOU CAN SPEND ON THE PROJECTS THAT ARE LISTED IN THE BOND QUESTION. THE SALES TAX CAN HAVE ADDITIONAL PROJECTS LISTED, OR YOU CAN LIST ALL OF IT ON BOTH OF THEM. BUT UNDERSTAND THAT YOU MAY HAVE PROJECTS THAT ADD UP TO $330 MILLION. AND CLEARLY THOSE WON'T ALL BE FUNDED WITH PROCEEDS FROM THE BONDS THAT WOULD BE ISSUED. SO DO WE NEED TO RANK THEM? I WOULD DEFER TO MISS HEIZER ON THE LEGAL SIDE. NO, SIR. YOU DON'T NEED TO RANK THEM. BUT I THINK THE MESSAGE IS THAT YOU'VE GOT ABOUT $30 MILLION AVAILABLE, THAT WE CAN BOND, AND YOU COULD HAVE UP TO $30 MILLION OF CONTINGENCY, THAT 9% PAY AS YOU GO. AND SO, IN ORDER FOR THE SALES TAX FOR THAT 9% TO BE USED ON A PROJECT, WE NEED THE PROJECT LISTED IN THAT QUESTION. SO IF THE TWO ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS OR REPLACING AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, IF YOU WANT THAT TO BE A POSSIBLE TAX SALES TAX PROJECT, IT MIGHT NOT BE FOR FIVE YEARS OR IT COULD BEGIN VERY QUICKLY, BUT IT COULD BE A PROJECT. SO THE, THE THE LIST OF SALES TAX PROJECTS CAN BE LONGER AND CAN INCLUDE MORE PROJECTS THAN THE BOND QUESTION, BECAUSE THE BOND QUESTION IS LIMITED TO THE 285. BUT FOR THE SALES TAX, WE'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT OVER 300 MILLION, INCLUDING YOUR PAY AS YOU GO. SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY IN TERMS OF ADDING PROJECTS ON THE SALES TAX SIDE, I HAVE A QUESTION. I'M SORRY, DOCTOR, DOCTOR HANKS BEFORE THEY EVEN GAVE THAT INFORMATION. SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THE BOND NUMBER OF 285. IF WE HAVE 30 MILLION APPROXIMATELY LEFT. IN LOOKING AT THE LIST, THE ONLY THING ON THIS LIST THAT WE CAME UP WITH IS PAUL KNOX MIDDLE SCHOOL. IT FALLS FOR RENOVATION 15 TO 20 MILLION. APPARENTLY, THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS AT THAT SCHOOL, AND THE SIZE OF THE CAFETERIA HAS JUST OUTGROWN THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS. IT'S TOO SMALL. NOTHING ELSE CAN BE DONE TO THAT FACILITY OTHER THAN GIVE THEM A NEW [01:35:03] CAFETERIA. IF WE HAVE THOSE DOLLARS LEFT, CAN WE CONSIDER PUTTING PAUL KNOX MIDDLE FROM THAT LIST, FROM THE BOND SIDE OF THE 285? NUMBERS WISE, YES, MA'AM. THAT'S A BOARD DECISION, RIGHT? STILL, I NEED TO SPEAK UP. IF WE GOT 30 MILLION LEFT. AND IT SAYS HERE THAT YOU CAN ADD A NEW WING TO GLOBEVILLE FOR 25 AND GET THOSE KIDS OUT OF MOBILE UNITS. I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE BIT PRIORITY TO ME. BIG TIME. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. MR. MOULTON. DOCTOR MURPHY, THIS QUESTION IS PROBABLY FOR YOU OR OR KEVIN. AND IT'S REALLY RELATED TO IF WE'VE GOT 30 MILLION LEFT, ARE WE THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX? WE SAID THE LAST OPTION ON THE TABLE WAS AREA THREE ELEMENTARY EXPANSION. AND I THINK EVERYBODY'S THINKING, WE'VE GOT TO BUILD A SCHOOL AT HIGHLAND SPRINGS, BUT WE'VE GOT NEEDS IN AREA THREE ALREADY. AS MR. SILAS HAS BROUGHT UP WITH, WE'RE AT PRETTY MUCH AT CAPACITY, I BELIEVE, AT BYRD, I THINK WE'RE AT CAPACITY AT GRANITEVILLE. COULD WE ADDRESS THOSE WITH THE MONEY AND DO WHAT MR. SMITH IS ASKING AND REPLACE THE MOBILES AT GLOVERVILLE? WE'VE GOT $30 MILLION. DOES IT HAVE TO BE SPENT ON A NEW SCHOOL, OR COULD WE LOOK AT BREAKING IT DOWN AND GIVING SOME, YOU KNOW, EXTRA CAPACITY THAT WAY? I WAS JUST TALKING WITH MR. TRAXLER JUST NOW. AND, TREY, IF YOU COULD COME AND EXPLAIN, WE WERE NOT ABLE TO USE BIRD AS ONE OF THE PROJECTS, CORRECT? WELL, IT COULD BE AMONG THE PHASE TWO PROJECTS IF WE WANTED IT TO. IT'S IT'S NOT AMONG THE PHASE ONE PROJECTS. SO WE WERE WE WERE LOOKING AT PAYGO FUNDS THAT THAT ARE AVAILABLE AS WE NEAR THE END OF PAYGO. BIRD WOULDN'T BE AN OPTION OR SOME OTHER PROJECTS WOULDN'T BE AN OPTION. FOR INSTANCE, WE MAY HAVE THE AVAILABILITY OF FUNDS AT THOSE EXISTING PROJECTS. OKAY. AND THEN, ACCORDING TO MR. CHIPMAN, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M CORRECT. BIRD IS THE WAY IT WAS DESIGNED. IT WOULD BE FAIRLY EASY TO ADD A WING TO BIRD. YEAH, WE DESIGNED BIRD ON EACH WING TO FOR TWO ADDITIONAL CLASSROOMS ON EACH WING. SO THE UTILITIES, THE POWER, ALL THAT IS DESIGNED IN THAT CAPACITY TO BUILD THOSE CLASSROOMS ON THE END, AND IT COULD BE DONE AT A REASONABLE PRICE. AND JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TALKING APPLES AND ORANGES. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT GLOVERSVILLE, WE MENTIONED THAT THE BUILDING WILL HAVE TO BE DETACHED. CORRECT. SO WE WERE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE A TWO STORY 13 OR 10 CLASS, I GUESS WOULD BE FIVE AND FIVE OR MAYBE SOMETHING OF A LARGER FOOTPRINT, MAYBE BECAUSE WE HAVE AT LEAST 12 MOBILES. THE 13TH MOBILE IS A STORAGE MOBILE. YEAH, I WAS GOING TO SAY 13. I THINK I ESTIMATED, LIKE I SAID, I ESTIMATED SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT I THINK YOU CAN HAVE MORE THAN 13 CLASSROOMS. RIGHT. BUT WOULD WE BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE CAFETERIA, THE HVAC AND THE FIRE SUPPRESSION IN THE MAIN BUILDING? I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE BEST TIME TO SPEAK IT, BUT THE EXISTING BUILDING HAS MANY CHALLENGES. AND FOR INSTANCE, WHEN YOU DESIGN A WING, IF IT'S ATTACHED TO THE BUILDING, SOMETIMES THE FIRE ALARM SYSTEM HAS TO BE UPGRADED. SOMETIMES THERE'S SOME OTHER OPTIONS THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO. BUT A LOT OF THESE OLD SCHOOLS, THE, YOU KNOW, SEWER LINES ARE CAST IRON. THERE'S A LOT OF TIMES THEY GET RUSTED OUT. WATER LINES ARE ARE DIFFICULT LEAD. AND IT'S JUST THE OTHER ISSUES THAT I GUESS YOU NEED TO KNOW IS THE BLOCK FILLER ON THE NEWER SECTION OF GLOVERVILLE HAS ASBESTOS IN IT. AND SO EVERY HOLE WOULD HAVE TO BE DRILLED WITH HEPA BACKED DRILLS. SPECIAL LICENSED CONTRACTORS. YOUR YOUR COST TO RENOVATE A GLOVERVILLE BECAUSE OF THE ASBESTOS WOULD BE PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, A LOT HIGHER THAN JUST BUILDING NEW. WE DO HAVE THE CAPACITY ON THAT LAND. THAT LAND IS A BIGGER PLOT THAN EVEN A MILLBROOK. [01:40:04] SO YOU COULD BUILD A NEW ELEMENTARY IF THAT'S THE LOCATION YOU WANT. YOU COULD EVEN BUILD A 600 STUDENT ELEMENTARY AT THAT SCHOOL. SO IT COULD BE DONE. BUT, YOU KNOW, THE ROOT OF THE ISSUE. DO YOU WANT TO BUILD A NEW 350 STUDENT SCHOOL? AND THE 600 SCHOOL WILL BE BASICALLY SIMILAR TO THE OTHER COST ESTIMATES WE HAVE HERE. SO WE HAVE A 600 SCHOOL IN AREA THREE ON THIS CALL SHEET, WHICH END UP COMING UP TO ABOUT $54 MILLION. YEAH. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR. I WOULD LIKE TO THROW ONE OTHER CAVEAT IN. I'M UP HERE FIGHTING FOR THOSE KIDS THAT ARE SITTING OUTSIDE. AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW. AND I DON'T MAKE NO EXCUSES FOR IT. THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER CAVEAT THAT NEEDS TO BE KNOWN. THERE'S 250 HOMES BEING BUILT AROUND GLOVERVILLE RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE 13 MOBILE UNITS. THAT MEANS MORE MOBILE UNITS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO COME IN. WE NEED TO REALLY LOOK AT WHAT'S BEST FOR OUR KIDS. AND THERE'S NO SENSE IN THAT MANY KIDS BEING IN MOBILE UNITS IN A DISTRICT LIKE OURS. SO AT THIS POINT, WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO PUT FORTH A MOTION? I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION. SURE, MR. MOULTON. HOME. JUST ONE MORE QUESTION IN REGARD. I'VE GOT A SOFT SPOT, NOT ONLY FOR GLOVERVILLE AND GREENDALE, AND I DON'T WANT TO. I THINK THAT IS A DEFINITE NEED. I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE STATED A, YOU KNOW, STATED THE CASE. THE OTHER PROBLEM I HAVE IS WE'VE GOT ON THE TABLE THE AREA THREE ELEMENTARY EXPANSION. SO HOW CAN WE MESH THE TWO TOGETHER? WHICH DOESN'T, DOESN'T DO ANYTHING FOR GREENDALE. BUT MY QUESTION IS, I THINK I HEARD THAT IT MIGHT BE CHEAPER TO ADD CAPACITY AT BYRD BECAUSE IT WAS DESIGNED THAT WAY TO HANDLE THE CAPACITY ISSUE. AT THE SAME TIME, WE STILL NEED IT. SOUNDS LIKE IT'S THE BEST IDEA AND THE CHEAPEST IDEA TO ADD A NEW FACILITY AT GLOVERVILLE TO ACHIEVE REDUCTION IN THE OR HOPEFULLY ELIMINATION OF THE MOBILE UNITS, ESPECIALLY WITH AN ADDITIONAL CAPACITY GROWTH OF 250 HOMES IN THE AREA. SO BOTH OF THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, WHETHER YOU DO IT AT BIRD, WHETHER YOU DO IT AT GLOVERVILLE. THEY BOTH ADDRESS AREA THREE CAPACITY ISSUES. THE QUESTION IS WHICH ONE IS THE SMARTEST WAY TO DO THAT? THAT'S MY THAT'S MY QUESTION. LET ME ASK A QUESTION, PLEASE. DOCTOR BRANTLEY, WE GOT 30 MILLION LEFT OVER. WE CAN BUILD A NEW SCHOOL IN EVERY THREE. 54 MILLION. ANYWAY, WE COULD SLAM DOWN SOME OF THESE TOP PROJECTS TO GET $24 MILLION SO THAT WE COULD DO A. I DON'T KNOW WHERE A NEW SCHOOL NEEDS TO BE BUILT. AND EVERY THREE. THAT'S NOT MY THING. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD BUILD HE JUST GOT THROUGH SAYING YOU COULD BUILD A NEW SCHOOL IN THE GLOVERVILLE CAMPUS, OR YOU COULD ADD ON TO BYRD OR. BUT YOU ONLY TALK ABOUT ADDING ON SIX CLASSROOMS OVER THERE, RIGHT? THAT'S NOT A SCHOOL. THAT'S SIX CLASSROOMS. YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THE FIRST QUESTION IS, IS THERE ANY WAY WE COULD PARE BACK A LITTLE BIT AND PICK UP ENOUGH TO CONSIDER BUILDING A NEW SCHOOL OR ITS EQUIVALENT IN AREA THREE? I THINK THAT DOESN'T HELP. MR. BROOME BUT MAYBE WE NEED TO LOOK FOR ANOTHER MILLION TO RENOVATE GREENDALE. ALTHOUGH I THINK THAT'S A WASTE OF MONEY. OKAY. THE SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE, THE FACILITIES GROUP WOULD DESCRIBE THESE AS CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATES. FROM THE POINT OF YOU CAN YOU CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT SCOPE FOR THAT. I THINK THEY ARE. SO LIKE TO YOUR POINT, YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, TAKE BACK 5 MILLION FROM EACH ONE, WHICH JUST REDUCES THE SCOPE, THE AMENITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND BAM, I THINK YOU GOT AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND WE'RE NOT TAKING A VOTE OR ANYTHING, BUT I'M ALL FOR THAT. I MEAN, YOU, YOU GO FOR? AND I THOUGHT THAT'S WHERE WE'D END UP TALKING ABOUT THIS, BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO FORCE IT ONE WAY. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE REALLY DOING HERE. AND MIND YOU, THESE THESE ARE BUDGET ESTIMATES. THE BUDGET ESTIMATES ARE NOT GOING IN THE RESOLUTION. RIGHT. THIS GIVES THE BOARD AND THE DISTRICT AN IDEA OF WHAT WHAT THEY SHOULD BE WORKING AGAINST AS AN ESTIMATE ON EACH PROJECT. AND YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT FOR INSTANCE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT SOUTH AIKEN AND MIDLAND [01:45:06] VALLEY HIGH SCHOOL ARE BOTH FOR A HIGH SCHOOLS. I KNOW MIDLAND VALLEY IS BIGGER, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, WITH THE 90 MILLION BOND REFERENDUM, IT GOT A NEW WING. $20 MILLION GOT PUT INTO MIDLAND VALLEY. I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD TAKE FIVE OUT OF SOUTH AIKEN AND TEN OUT OF MIDLAND VALLEY AND STILL GET GOOD RENOVATIONS. I HAVE NO IDEA. RIGHT. BUT I THINK THAT'S THAT'S EXACTLY THE CONVERSATION WE SHOULD BE HAVING. IT'S WORTH IT. THE REALITY IS THAT THESE ARE JUST ESTIMATES THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT IT'S GOING TO COST. THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE'RE GOING TO GET FROM A 1% IS AN ESTIMATE. IF WE GET LESS THAN WE PROJECT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PHASE THEM BACK OR PUT SOMETHING ON HOLD. BY THE SAME TOKEN, IF WE GET MORE RIGHT, THEN WE CAN. YEAH. AND JUST EXACTLY THAT. SO WE ALL SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT THAT. SO WE'RE TRYING TO COMMIT TO SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GOING TO HOLD TO AS AN ESTIMATE. RIGHT. BUT FOR INSTANCE, I THINK WE OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS IN THE PENNY SALES TAX. SOMEBODY JUST SPEAK UP AND CORRECT ME. WE PROBABLY COLLECTED $100 MILLION MORE THAN WHAT WAS PROJECTED WHEN IT STARTED. RIGHT. AND WE HEARD SOME REASONS WHY THAT PROBABLY WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN. RIGHT. TALKED ABOUT THE AMAZON EFFECT AND COLLECTING SALES TAX WITH THAT. THAT WAS AN INITIAL BUMP, BUT THE THE RETURNS WERE MUCH STRONGER. AND ALSO THE I THINK THE ESTIMATES ON GROWTH WERE MORE CONSERVATIVE TEN YEARS AGO THAN THEY ARE NOW FROM THE STATE, THREE VERSUS FIVE. IT'LL BE CLOSER TO 30 MILLION MORE THAN PROJECTIONS, I THINK BY BY THE TIME ALL. YEAH. BUT. RIGHT. SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING. I IF WE CAN AGREE ON THAT, YOU KNOW, THE ROUGH FIGURES THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ON SOME OF THESE PROJECTS WOULD SCALE BACK A LITTLE BIT AND STILL DO A GOOD PROJECT OR RENOVATION AND ADDITION, THEN WE COULD FIT IN ANOTHER $50 MILLION PROJECT. AND WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT CONTINGENCY PROJECTS IN CASE THINGS ARE REALLY STRONG, BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO BE IN A SITUATION WHERE YOU'RE JUST HAVING TO COME UP WITH WAYS TO SPEND MONEY ON A SCHOOL WHEN YOU'VE GOT NEEDS ELSEWHERE. BUT. DOCTOR HANKS. SO THE $0.01 SALES IS A IT'S NOT A GIVEN. WE DON'T KNOW THAT NUMBER. IT COULD BE HIGHER. IT COULD BE LOWER. THOSE ARE THE CONTINGENCY PROJECTS THAT WE COULD LIST FOR NOW. WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH STAYING WITHIN THE 285 BUDGET AND A SOLID LIST OF WHAT WE WANT PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC TO VOTE ON. YEAH. THE ONLY OTHER THING, NOT JUST BECAUSE PAUL KNOX IS MY AREA. I LOVE PAUL KNOX, BUT IT'S THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT'S ON THIS LIST THAT STAYS WITHIN THAT NUMBER. IF WE WANT FIVE THINGS FOR THE LIST TO PRESENT TO THE PUBLIC, CAN WE NOT CHOOSE WHAT'S ON THE LIST THAT COMES IN AT 15 TO 20 MILLION TO REDO THE KITCHEN? THAT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT SUSTAINING THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS AT THAT SCHOOL. IS THAT A MOTION? I MEAN, THE I MEAN, EVERYTHING'S POSSIBLE, RIGHT? SO WE COULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THAT. THE OTHER THING. THE OTHER THING. WELL. GO AHEAD. CAN YOU JUST GIVE A LITTLE FEEDBACK ON WHAT'S ACTUALLY GOING ON IN THAT CAFETERIA OR AT PAUL KNOX WITH THE THE SIZE AND THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS? YOU SAID IT COULD NOT BE RENOVATED. YEAH. BASICALLY, I'M TRYING NOT TO BE HYPERBOLIC, BUT THAT CAFETERIA IS A LARGE CLASSROOM. IT'S JUST IT WAS NOT DESIGNED AS A FULL SIZE CLASSROOM. I WANT TO SAY THERE'S EVEN A LITTLE STAGE EXCUSE ME. CAFETERIA? THERE'S A LITTLE STAGE THERE TO. IT'S NOT ENOUGH SPACE. THE SCHOOL HAS IT'S GREATLY EXPANDED. AND THEN WE'VE ACTUALLY WITH HIGHLAND SPRINGS, WE'VE LOWERED THE NUMBER DOWN, BUT STILL AT ABOUT, I WANT TO SAY 400 KIDS RIGHT NOW. WE'RE SAYING LET ME QUICKLY CHECK. FIVE 5550. 550. IT'S IT'S IT'S NOT ENOUGH CAFETERIA SPACE TO PROPERLY SERVE THE STUDENTS. AND OF COURSE, WITH THE CAFETERIA SPACE BEING BAD, IT MEANS THE KITCHEN SPACE IS BAD AS WELL. SO IT WOULD NEED A CAFETERIA AND KITCHEN RENOVATION AND SOMETHING OF APPROPRIATE SIZE FOR A SCHOOL THAT SIZE. MR. SILAS. IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT COMES IN UNDER 30 MILLION, GLOVERVILLE DOES AS WELL. AND PERSONALLY SPEAKING, FOR THE MONEY THAT'S BEEN SPENT IN AREA FOR OVER THE LAST LITTLE BIT, I CAN'T SUPPORT ANY ANYTHING ELSE GOING ON OVER THERE, JUST TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST WITH YOU. SO IF WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT ELSE COMES [01:50:02] UNDER THE 30 MILLION THAT WE GOT TO PLAY WITH, GLOVERVILLE IS LISTED ON HERE IS 25. IF IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING, MAYBE I DO THINK IT'S A REASONABLE REQUEST OR SUGGESTION TO TO PEEL OFF A LITTLE OF SOME OF OUR ACROSS THE BOARD. WHAT WE DO WITH IT IS STILL UP FOR DISCUSSION, BUT I DO THINK THAT'S A REASONABLE SUGGESTION. YEAH. SO, MR. TRAXLER. CAN YOU CAN YOU ASSIST ME ONE MORE TIME AT THE EASEL? ABSOLUTELY. AND JUST THE FOUR PROJECTS THAT WE'VE GOT ADDED TO THE RESOLUTION FOR RENOVATIONS AND ADDITIONS, CAN YOU PUT THEM ON A FRESH SHEET AND ROLL THAT OVER? YEAH. SO. HERE'S THE THREE HIGH SCHOOLS IN NORTH AUGUSTA MIDDLE SCHOOL. SO WHAT I WOULD THIS IS WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS THAT MAYBE. YEAH YOU CAN THE INITIAL NUMBERS. YEAH. 70 7060, 57 OR MAYBE 5760. 760 AND THAT'S. 257 SO I MEAN, WHAT WE'RE AGAIN, JUST LOTS OF THINGS CAN HAPPEN, RIGHT? INTEREST RATES CAN GO WAY DOWN. INFLATION CAN GO WAY DOWN. IT CAN GO UP. YOU CAN'T PREDICT THE FUTURE. THE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS ESSENTIALLY, AS A ROUGH FIGURE, A $50 MILLION ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, RIGHT? REALLY, IF WE GET WITHIN 5% OF 285, I THINK WE'RE DOING GOOD. SO WE SAY THERE'S ALREADY ABOUT 30. WE'RE LOOKING FOR ANOTHER 20. YOU KNOW, YOU COULD STRAIGHT LINE IT AND SAY, TAKE 5 MILLION OFF EACH OF THOSE FOUR PROJECTS. AND I GIVEN ALL THE VARIABLES, I WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH A FIFTH PROJECT THAT WE'RE SAYING IS GOING TO BE ABOUT $50 MILLION, BUT WHAT? HOW WOULD OTHER FOLKS DO IT? SO IF WE HAD IF WE JUST TOOK $5 MILLION OFF THE ROUGH BUDGET ESTIMATE THAT WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TO PLAN AGAINST THAT WOULD TAKE IT DOWN TO 237. AND. THAT'S ABOUT A 48. THAT LEAVES 48 MILLION OUT OF THE 285. I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE SAYING WE'VE GOT ROOM FOR A 50 MILLION, $50 MILLION PROJECT IF WE DO THAT. MISS TYLER. SO I HAVE A QUESTION, AND I THINK PROBABLY MR. BROOME IS BETTER SUITED TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION. SO DOES THAT, IN YOUR OPINION, DOES THAT OPTION TO MEET THE NEEDS OF SILVER BLUFF? I MEAN, IF THERE'S EXTRA MONEY AND IF IT WERE WAGENER-SALLEY HIGH, I'MA BE HONEST WITH YOU. I'D BE SAYING IF Y'ALL GOT EXTRA MONEY, THROW IT OVER THIS WAY, BECAUSE THIS PARTICULAR, WELL, IT DOESN'T DO IT. THIS PROJECT DOES NOT ADDRESS THE WHAT I CONSIDER THE IMMEDIATE NEEDS OF AREA FIVE. NO. BY DOING SILVER BLUFF ALONE AND JACKSON MIDDLE NEEDS A LOT OF WORK. BUT GREENDALE. GREENDALE IS A TO ME, JUST WALKING THROUGH THAT BUILDING. IT'S A CONCERN. I THINK IT'S A FROM SAFETY ALL THE WAY. I MEAN, ANY KIND OF WAY YOU WANT TO SHAPE IT. I THINK THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT BUILDING. I, YOU KNOW, BUT WITHOUT DOING THE WHOLE PROJECT, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN DO IT WITH THE MONEY WE GOT, BUT I CAN'T I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN GO BACK. I DON'T KNOW HOW I CAN GO BACK TO WELLINGTON CITY COUNCIL AND TELL THEM THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DOES NOT CONSIDER GREENDALE SOMETHING THAT'S IN PRIORITY. I'LL JUST BE HONEST WITH YOU. I, I THINK THAT'S REALLY GOING TO LOOK BAD, CONSIDERING WHAT A LOT OF THE OTHER SCHOOLS IN OUR DISTRICT LOOK LIKE, HOW NICE THEY ARE. DOCTOR HANKS, JUST TO CLARIFY WHAT GLOVERSVILLE AND I DO SEE THE SECOND SHEET THAT WE WERE JUST HANDED TONIGHT, I WAS LOOKING AT, I GUESS THE ORIGINAL SHEET MR. SILAS THAT GLOVERSVILLE IS ON THERE FOR 25 MILLION. SUPPOSEDLY THAT 25 MILLION WILL GIVE AN EXTRA WING TO COMPENSATE FOR THE 13 MOBILES. [01:55:07] BUT IS THAT NOT THE SAME CONVERSATION MR. CHIPMAN HAD SAYING, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE, BECAUSE THAT BUILDING IS SO OLD AND HAS SO MANY OTHER ISSUES, ADDING THAT THAT 25TH MAY TURN INTO WHO KNOWS WHAT WHEN THEY GET INTO RENOVATING OR TRYING TO ADD TO THAT SCHOOL. DOCTOR HANKS, WHAT I WHAT I HEARD AND I KNOW HE CAN SPEAK FOR HIMSELF, BUT WHAT I HEARD MR. CHIPMAN SAY IS THAT THAT $25 MILLION IS ESSENTIALLY BUILDING A STANDALONE WING, LIKE A SEPARATE BUILDING. THAT'S THE REASON WE TO TALK ABOUT 54 MILLION. MAY I? MR.. SMITH. THAT 25 MILLION WOULD CERTAINLY HELP THAT COMMUNITY AND THE GROWTH THAT'S GOING ON IN THAT COMMUNITY. IT WOULD HELP TREMENDOUSLY. BUT LET ME REMIND EVERYONE THAT REGARDLESS OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE OLD PORTION OF THE BUILDING, IT'S STILL GOING TO BE THERE AND WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE THE SAME ISSUES, EVEN IF WE DO. YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE CAN GET. BUT I'M GOING TO GO BACK AGAIN AND SAY, WE GOT 12 MOBILE UNITS FULL OF YOUNG KIDS AND SPECIAL NEEDS KIDS OUT IN THE COLD, OUT IN THE RAIN THAT NEED TO BE BROUGHT INTO A SOLID STRUCTURE. AND, YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING DOESN'T LOOK WELL. ARE THEY GETTING RAINED THROUGH THE CEILING IN SOME OF THESE, LIKE GREENDALE IS? ARE THEY GETTING ARE THEY IN DESPERATE NEED? I KNOW THE CAFETERIAS AT SOME SCHOOLS ARE IN THE REMODELING ENLARGE SO MUCH, BUT THEY AREN'T GETTING WET. THEY AREN'T FREEZING. THEY AREN'T GETTING COLD GOING IN AND OUT. WE HAVE. NO, WE DON'T HAVE THE SPACE. WE GOT THE SPACE TO BUILD, BUT WE DON'T HAVE HANDICAP ACCESSIBILITY TO THE NEED THAT WE NEED IT AT THAT SCHOOL. AND WE CAN GET OUT THOSE MOBILE UNITS AND NOT HAVE THAT PROBLEM. GOOD. BE READY FOR A MOTION. YEAH, I THINK WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSION. IS THERE A MOTION ANYONE WANTS TO PUT FORTH? I HAD ONE MORE QUESTION FOR MR. SMITH. AND SO BUILDING AN EXTERNAL WING, IT'S GOING TO MEAN THEY'RE NOT IN PORTABLES, BUT THEY STILL HAVE TO EXIT THAT BUILDING TO GO OUT TO DO ANYTHING ELSE. CORRECT. IT IS OHIO'S BILL. IF IT'S BUILT WITH AN OPEN WALKWAY, THEY WILL, BUT THEY AT LEAST WILL BE COVERED WHERE THEY AREN'T NOW. AND IF THIS BUILT WERE A A, A COVERED WALK COULD BE IN THERE. THEN THEY WOULD. I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT ANYTHING DOWN, BUT I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT WHERE OUR GREATEST NEEDS ARE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T FORGET THEM. YEAH. SO IS THERE A MOTION THAT ANYONE WANTS TO PUT FORWARD? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. DOCTOR BRADLEY THAT WE SUBTRACT $5 MILLION FROM EACH OF THE APPROVED PROJECTS. THE PROJECTS THAT WERE APPROVED IN THE LAST MOTION. AND WE ADD THAT TO THE REMAINING $30 MILLION TO BUILD A ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN AREA THREE OR ITS EQUIVALENT. YEAH. OKAY. SO I'M GOING TO RESTATE THE MOTION AND THEN WE'LL HAVE SOME DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT. SO JUST IN PART OF MY STATING IS BEAR IN MIND THOSE DOLLAR AMOUNTS ARE NOT GOING IN THE RESOLUTION. OKAY. SO WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THE BOARD WILL HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING THAT THE BUDGET ESTIMATES THAT WE WILL START PLANNING WITH WILL BE REDUCED BY 5 MILLION FOR THOSE FOUR PROJECTS, AND WE'LL HAVE A $48 MILLION ROUGH ESTIMATE TO WORK WITH TO START PLANNING A NEW AREA THREE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. AND ALSO AS PART OF THAT MOTION WE ARE MOVING TO ADD A NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN AREA THREE TO BOTH THE RESOLUTION FOR THE EDUCATION CAPITAL PROJECT, SALES TAX AND THE BOND. DID I RESTATE YOUR MOTION APPROPRIATELY? ONE QUESTION. YEP. UNLESS WE KNOW WHERE OR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS NEEDED OR WHATEVER. THAT'S THE REASON I SAID AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL OR ITS EQUIVALENT. THE EQUIVALENT BEING IF WE HAD TO BREAK IT UP AND PUT, THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK. I'LL GO WITH WHAT YOU SAID. OKAY. SO, DOCTOR BAILEY, JUST SO WE'VE GOT WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. AND YOU AGREE, AS I RESTATE THE MOTION, THAT WAS YOUR INTENT. AND WE HAVE DISCUSSION MR. SMITH. I HAVE A QUESTION. [02:00:02] I CAN. I CAN LIVE WITH POSSIBLY BUILDING A NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN AREA THREE BECAUSE I KNOW WE NEED IT. WE NEED IT BAD. BUT I CAN'T LIVE IF WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND THEN CLOSE THOSE SCHOOLS THAT ARE ALREADY DOWN THERE IN AREA THREE. I NEED THAT CLARIFIED NOW BEFORE I GO ANY FURTHER. I'LL LET DOCTOR MURPHY COMMENT. I WILL SAY THAT ONCE WE BUILD THE SCHOOL, WE'LL HAVE TO REZONE. I DON'T HAVE ANY PLAN ON ON CLOSING THE SCHOOL. THAT WOULD BE, OF COURSE, A BOARD DECISION, BUT WE WOULD END UP HAVING TO REZONE SOME KIDS TO GO TO THOSE SCHOOLS, AND SO. OKAY. MISTER SILAS, AFTER WE VOTE ON THIS MOTION, COULD WE GO BACK AND WE TALKED ABOUT ADDING CONTINGENCY PROJECTS THEN I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE COME BACK AND DISCUSS WHAT THOSE CONTINGENCY PROJECTS WOULD BE, OF WHICH I THINK GLOBEVILLE'S GOT TO BE ON THAT LIST IN GREENDALE, IF POSSIBLE, FOR SURE. SO, OKAY. YEAH, AFTERWARDS, I THINK THIS WHETHER WE GO UP, IF WE GO THUMBS UP ON THIS OR WE MAY GO THUMBS DOWN FOR WHAT WE'RE REALLY COMMITTING TO, THIS IS IT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS ON THE MOTION? I DID UNDERSTAND, MR. CHIPMAN, TO SAY THAT WE COULD BUILD A 650 STUDENT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ON THE GLOVERSVILLE SITE. HE SAID THAT. DOCTOR HANKS, WAS THERE SOMETHING ADDITIONAL? I THOUGHT MY APOLOGIES. SO THAT'S OUR DISCUSSION. AND THIS IS A LITTLE CONVOLUTED, BUT JUST FOR EVERYBODY'S BENEFIT. RIGHT. THE THE MOTION WE HAVE ON THE FLOOR IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO ADD, A NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TO IN AREA THREE TO BOTH THE RESOLUTION FOR THAT EDUCATION CAPITAL PROJECT SALES TAX AND THE BOND RESOLUTION. WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THESE ROUGH BUDGET ESTIMATES ON PROJECTS, AND WE ARE REDUCING THE FOUR PROJECTS, EACH BY 5 MILLION AND LEAVING ESSENTIALLY A $48 MILLION PROJECT ON AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WITH JUST THE BOND AS WE START FOR PLANNING PURPOSES. ALL RIGHT. AND I THINK THAT'S REASONABLE. WE'VE WE'VE HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THAT. WE'VE HAD OUR DISCUSSION. I ASKED A QUESTION. OKAY. GO AHEAD, MR. SMITH. WE'RE BUILDING A NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN AREA THREE, AND THAT'S WHAT IS PROPOSED. AND IF IT'S VOTED TO DO THIS, HOW MANY STUDENTS ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HOUSING IN THIS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL FOR 48 MEETING. OUR GOAL RIGHT NOW IS TO HAVE OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS BETWEEN 650 AND 750. THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT WE TARGET FOR A NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. WE CAN BUILD THAT FOR 48,000,048 55. I MEAN, I'M STILL A LITTLE HIGH. I'M A LITTLE HIGHER IN MY ESTIMATES THAN WHAT WE ARE, BUT IT CAN BE DONE. WE'RE TALKING 650 STUDENTS. 700? YES, SIR. THAT'S THE THAT'S THE SWEET SPOT FOR FOR OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCIES. NICE QUESTION. SO GLOVERSVILLE CURRENTLY HAS 350 STUDENTS. WHERE ARE ALL THESE OTHER STUDENTS COMING FROM TO GET UP TO SIX AND 650. EASY PEASY. WELL, I MEAN, I STEPPED OUT, SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE'RE TALKING. AND I KNOW THAT ORIGINALLY WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING WE HAVE SOME LAND PURCHASE PURCHASES BEHIND MIDLAND VALLEY, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT ENTIRE AREA IS IS GROWING. AND SO WE WILL JUST BE REZONING STUDENTS IN ORDER TO, TO, TO TO MEET THAT CAPACITY. SO HOPEFULLY WE WOULD OPEN IT UP MAYBE AT 75 TO 80% CAPACITY, AND THEN IT WOULD ALLOW US FOR FUTURE TREND GROWTH BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO OPEN THE SCHOOL UP AT CAPACITY ANYWAY. SO THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT WE'RE TARGETING UNLESS I MISS SOMETHING. RIGHT. OKAY. SO THE I'LL RESTATE THE MOTION ONE MORE TIME. AND WE'VE HAD OUR DISCUSSION. THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TO ADD A NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN AREA THREE TO BOTH THE RESOLUTION FOR THE EDUCATION CAPITAL PROJECT SALES TAX AND THE RESOLUTION ON THE BOND ISSUANCE. WITH THE BOARD'S UNDERSTANDING THAT THESE ROUGH BUDGET ESTIMATES THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING WOULD BE EACH OF THE FOUR PROJECTS, PROJECTS WE'VE ADDED TO THE RESOLUTION SO FAR, THOSE ESTIMATES WOULD BE REDUCED BY 5 MILLION EACH, LEAVING APPROXIMATELY 48 MILLION OUT OF THAT 285 THAT WE'VE BEEN ESTIMATING FOR PLANNING [02:05:03] PURPOSES FOR THIS NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT'S SEVEN IN FAVOR. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? THAT'S TWO AGAINST. MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 2. SO THE. WE VERY MUCH WE CAN GO ON TO LOTS OF THINGS, BUT I'VE MENTIONED A COUPLE OF TIMES THAT WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT CONTINGENCY PROJECTS, AND HERE'S WHY. I MEAN, SO WE HAD AN UNUSUALLY STRONG, MAYBE NOT UNUSUALLY, BUT WE HAD A VERY STRONG PENNY SALES TAX COLLECTION OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS. AND IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT THAT ORIGINAL WAS ON THE BALLOT, LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, I THINK THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE THE DISTRICT PROBABLY DIDN'T THINK WE'D BE ABLE TO BE IN SCOPE. THE MONEY MATERIALIZED. WE BROUGHT IT IN SCOPE BECAUSE WE HAD TO SPEND IT ON THOSE PROJECTS. OKAY. WHAT I THINK WOULD BE GOOD IS IF IF WE HAVE SURPRISE COLLECTIONS AND THEY'RE VERY STRONG I THINK IT WOULD BEHOOVE US TO THINK ABOUT OTHER THINGS AS KIND OF THOSE OPTIONAL CONTINGENCY PROJECTS TO SPECIFY THEM FOR, LIKE, AND I KNOW THIS IS PROBABLY WON'T BE THE FAVORITE, BUT LIKE, SECURITY ENHANCEMENTS AT SCHOOLS IN THE COUNTY, RIGHT? IT COULD BE THAT VAGUE. OR WE COULD TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY ADDING CLASSROOMS TO A SPECIFIC ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN THE COUNTY. RIGHT. I THINK WE COULD EVEN SAY THAT WE SPECIFICALLY WANT TO DESIGNATE IT TO ROOF REPLACEMENT BECAUSE IT'S REALLY EXPENSIVE ROOF REPLACEMENT ON BUILDINGS IN THE DISTRICT. IT COULD BE THAT GENERIC, RIGHT? SO THAT'S OPEN FOR DISCUSSION FOR THE BOARD. AND BUT BEFORE WE BEGIN, WE WOULD LIST THESE CONTINGENCIES ON THE, THE SALES TAX RESOLUTION. RIGHT. YEP. SO WE'RE NOT LISTING THESE ON THE BOND BUT WE WOULD RESOLUTION. BUT WE'RE LISTING THESE ON THE SALES TAX RESOLUTION. OKAY. SO OR FOR INSTANCE LIKE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE CAFETERIA AT ONE POINT WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD SHARE FACILITIES, BUT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A KENNEDY GYM. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ADDING CLASSROOMS AT BYRD IF THAT'S FEASIBLE. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT I MENTIONED SECURITY UPGRADES. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT GLOVERVILLE ELEMENTARY ADDITIONS. WHO WANTS TO START? DOCTOR HANKS I, IN LISTENING TO MR. BROOME, JUST HAVE A CONCERN NOW ABOUT GREENDALE AND WE DON'T SEEM TO BE REFERENCING IT AT ALL. SO IN THE CONTINGENCY PLAN, DOES GREENVILLE FIT IN THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT? REFRESH MY MEMORY. WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT GREENVILLE? DOES IT NEED A TOTAL TEAR DOWN AND REBUILD BECAUSE OF THE FLOODING? WHERE ARE WE OR WHAT CAN BE DONE FOR GREENVILLE? I'M CHOOSING MY WORDS. THE ISSUE HERE IS THE BUILDING IS GETTING TO WHERE IT'S IT'S IT'S AT THE END OF LIFE. AND SO THERE ARE GOING TO BE A LOT OF THINGS THAT GO WRONG WITH IT. AND THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH WE CAN DO TO, TO HELP IT. I HAS TO HAVE A ROOF. LIKE IF WE WERE TO CONTINUE TO HAVE KIDS IN THAT BUILDING, WE'VE GOT TO PUT ON A NEW ROOF. OTHER THINGS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED, MAYBE THOSE THAT WE CAN MAYBE PUSH DOWN THE ROAD A LITTLE BIT AT THE END OF THE DAY. IT'S NOT AN ATTRACTIVE SCHOOL. IT'S IT IT FEELS LIKE IT'S SEVERAL SCHOOLS IN ONE WHEN YOU'RE WALKING THROUGH IT BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE THE RENOVATIONS THAT WERE DONE OVER TIME TO TRY TO PUT A BAND-AID ON THE ISSUE. SO IT'S JUST I MEAN, THERE'S NO REAL WAY TO SAY THAT OTHER THAN TO SAY WE CAN WE CAN INVEST MONEY IN GREENDALE. BUT SOONER OR LATER, IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE THAT SCHOOL, WE NEED TO HAVE A NEW SCHOOL. YES, MA'AM. WHEN YOU WALK IN, YOU WALK DOWN THE RAMP LIKE A LIKE A SHIPPING RAMP. IT IS THAT YOU WALK DOWN TO GO INTO THE CLASSROOM. I MEAN, IT'S LIKE YOU'RE IN A FREIGHT TERMINAL OR SOMETHING. ONE OF THE THINGS I LIKE ON THE CONTINGENCY LIST IS DEFINITELY ROOFING, BECAUSE I'VE ASKED THIS QUESTION BEFORE, AND APPARENTLY THERE ARE MULTIPLE SCHOOLS WHERE THE ROOFS ARE IN HORRIBLE SHAPE. SO CONTINGENCY ROOF REPLACEMENTS OR MAJOR REPAIRS? DEFINITELY. I, I THINK SHOULD BE A PART OF THAT $0.01 CONTINGENCY LIST. AND WE'LL GO THROUGH AND JUST HAVE SOME DISCUSSION AND MAYBE WE CAN PROBABLY SUMMARIZE IT WITH EMOTION. BUT THE WHAT WE BUDGET FOR ROOF REPLACEMENT IN THE DISTRICT ANNUALLY IS HALF $1 MILLION. [02:10:04] IT'S ABOUT A HALF $1 MILLION IS WHAT WE BUDGET WITH THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE. BUT IS THERE ANY KIND OF ESTIMATE ON KIND OF LIKE WHAT OUR DEFERRED MAINTENANCE OR DEFERRED DEFERRED ROOF REPLACEMENT IS? YEAH, THEY'RE THEY'RE RUNNING ABOUT $35 A SQUARE FOOT. SO AS AN EXAMPLE, SILVER BLUFF'S, 130,000FT². IT'S A FOUR AND A HALF TO $4.8 MILLION PROJECT, RIGHT? SO SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. I THINK IT WOULD BE A SMART CHOICE TO PUT ON, PARTICULARLY AS A CONTINGENCY. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REPLACE A ROOF AT A HIGH SCHOOL, $4 MILLION. WE HAVE A HALF $1 MILLION A YEAR. JUST BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT. WELL YEAH. SO I'M MAKING NOTES THERE. OTHER IDEAS FOR CONTINGENCY PROJECTS. MR. MOULTON I MENTIONED THIS BEFORE, AND I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE A RESOLUTION WITHOUT IT BEING PART OF THE CONTINGENCY, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SKIP OVER IT. I THINK DOCTOR HANKS IS RIGHT ON PAUL KNOTS. AND I THINK WE'VE GOT ANOTHER A PRETTY LARGE CONCERN, I THINK, WITH THE CAFETERIA LUNCHROOM AREA AT BELVEDERE ELEMENTARY. AND THEY WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO RECEIVE, YOU KNOW, SOME UPGRADES WITH THE LAST ROUND, BUT THEY DIDN'T GET ANYTHING FOR THE CAFETERIA OR LUNCH AREA. BUT THAT'S ONE THE OTHER ONE IS ONE WE ALREADY DISCUSSED, AND I THINK I'M PROBABLY THE ONLY ONE MENTIONING IT BECAUSE THE CAPACITY IS THERE TO ADD TO BIRD, AND WE NEED EXTRA CAPACITY IN AREA THREE. THEY BUILT THE SCHOOL TO DO THAT. WITH THAT IN MIND. I THINK WE'RE SORT OF REMISS TO NOT CONSIDER THAT IN A CONTINGENCY PLAN. SO. I THINK WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE COST OF ADDING SIX CLASSROOMS TO BYRD VERSUS BUILDING THOSE SIX CLASSROOMS AS A PART OF A BIGGER STRUCTURE THAT MIGHT EVEN BE MORE CONVENIENTLY LOCATED. YEAH. AND JUST TO CLARIFY, I SUPPORT THE BIGGER STRUCTURE 100%. I THINK WE NEED BOTH. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE WITH IDEAS OR DISCUSSION? MR.. MR.. I WILL DEFINITELY HAVE GREENDALE PUT ON CONTINGENCY FOR REPLACEMENT IF OR ANY OTHER MEANS THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THAT SCHOOL WITH, BUT I HONESTLY DON'T THINK I'D HATE TO SEE US THROW $10 MILLION AWAY TRYING TO PATCH IT HONESTLY, BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE STILL GOING TO BE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION SHORTLY DOWN THE ROAD AFTER WE DO THAT, YOU KNOW. SO. YES, SIR. MR. SMITH, I NEED TO SAY THIS. WE STILL GOT 250 HOMES BEING BUILT RIGHT NOW AROUND GLOVERVILLE, AND YOU CAN'T LOOK AT NOT PUTTING THAT ON THERE IN SOME WAY. ALTHOUGH I DO AGREE WITH DOCTOR HANKS ON THIS ROOF. AND WE AS A BOARD NEED TO LOOK AT TRYING TO COME UP WITH MORE FUNDS FOR ROOFING BECAUSE THE WAY COSTS ARE GOING AND THAT THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY DID IT TEN, 15, 20 YEARS AGO. BUT THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY CANNOT SUSTAIN OUR SCHOOLS TO KEEP THEM IN SHAPE. BUT GLOVERVILLE NEEDS HELP. OKAY. THE ONLY AND I SAID IT JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, BUT I THINK WE WOULD NOT AS A PRIORITY NECESSARILY OVER SOMETHING ELSE, BUT I THINK WE WOULD WANT TO INCLUDE SECURITY VESTIBULE AND DOOR LOCK UPGRADES AS A CONTINGENCY PROJECT FOR ANY SCHOOL IN THE DISTRICT. NOW, ONE THING TO UNDERSTAND, I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY PUTTING THEIR THOUGHTS FORWARD, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO SO. AND CONTINGENCY PROJECTS, CONTINGENCY PROJECTS OBVIOUSLY ARE THIS THAT CONTINGENCY. THEY ARE NOT IN ANY RANKED ORDER. AND THEY'RE NOT PART OF THE BOND ISSUANCE. BUT THESE ARE THINGS THAT WOULD GIVE THE DISTRICT FLEXIBILITY IF WE HAD VERY STRONG RETURNS. IF WE PASSED A SALES TAX THAT ONCE ALL THE FIVE PROJECTS HAVE MET THAT WE COULD USE IT ON THESE OTHER THINGS. SO. AND WE WON'T KNOW. RIGHT. WE'LL BE GUESSING HOW MUCH MONEY THAT'S GOING TO BE. [02:15:03] ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OR IDEAS? OKAY. I THINK WE'RE COMING DOWN TO A POINT WHERE WE HAVE TO LOOK AT VACANT CLASSROOMS AND TRY TO DO SOMETHING CREATIVE THERE. I MEAN, I WAS ASTONISHED TO FIND THAT WE'D HAD A WHOLE SIXTH GRADE WING AT SCHOFIELD SITTING THERE VACANT. I MEAN, IT'S VACANT AS FAR AS KIDS ARE. WE GOT SOME ADULT PEOPLE IN THERE, BUT AND AT THE SAME TIME, I'M BEING TOLD THAT WE DON'T HAVE SUFFICIENT CLASSROOMS TO EXPAND PRESCHOOL PROGRAM BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE CLASSROOMS. I MEAN, I COULD SEE A KINDERGARTEN UNIT IN A MIDDLE SCHOOL SEGREGATED SO THAT IT WOULD BE SAFE. YEAH, WE USED TO DO THAT WITH HANDICAPPED CHILDREN ALL THE TIME. OKAY. BASED ON OUR DISCUSSION, WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO PUT FORTH A MOTION ON CONTINGENCY PROJECTS FOR THE SALES TAX RESOLUTION, OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO. MAYBE I'LL JUST SUMMARIZE. OKAY. SO THE AND THIS IS THESE LIKE I SAID, THESE ARE CONTINGENCY PROJECTS. THEY ARE NOT RANKED IN ANY KIND OF PRIORITY ORDER, AND WE HAVE NO IDEA IF MONEY WILL COME ABOUT TO DO ANY OF THEM. BUT THE AND I'LL SUMMARIZE IN THE IN THE FORM OF A MOTION. WHAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED IS THAT I WOULD MOVE THAT WE ADD THE FOLLOWING PROJECTS AS CONTINGENCY PROJECTS TO THE EDUCATION CAPITAL PROJECT SALES TAX RESOLUTION, AND THOSE BEING ROOFING PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY, SCHOOL DISTRICT SECURITY, VESTIBULE AND DOOR LOCK UPGRADES FOR ANY SCHOOL IN THE DISTRICT. ADDITION OF CLASSROOMS AT BYRD ELEMENTARY ON THE ENDS OF THE BUILDING WHERE IT'S DESIGNED TO BE ADDED. WHAT I'LL CALL PERHAPS I THINK WHAT MR. BROOME SAID WAS REALLY REPLACEMENT OF GREENDALE ELEMENTARY. I WON'T SAY RENOVATIONS, REPLACEMENT OF GREENDALE ELEMENTARY AND CLASSIC CLASSROOM ADDITIONS OR ADDITIONS AT GLOVERVILLE ELEMENTARY. THAT'S WHAT WAS DISCUSSED. IS THERE A SECOND ON THAT MOTION TO ADD THESE CONTINGENCY PROJECTS TO THE EDUCATION CAPITAL PROJECT SALES TAX RESOLUTION? SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION ON THESE CONTINGENCY PROJECTS? OKAY. I'LL RESTATE IT. SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MOTION TO ADD ROOFING PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT, SECURITY VESTIBULE AND DOOR LOCK UPGRADES, ADDITIONS TO BIRD CLASSROOM, ADDITIONS TO BIRD ELEMENTARY REPLACEMENTS OF GREENDALE ELEMENTARY, AND CLASSROOM ADDITIONS TO NEW CLASSROOM ADDITIONS TO GLOVERVILLE ELEMENTARY AS CONTINGENCY PROJECTS TO THE EDUCATION CAPITAL PROJECT. SALES TAX RESOLUTION. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT'S UNANIMOUS. NINE IN FAVOR? THE MOTION CARRIES. I AM OPEN TO OTHER ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION, BUT I THINK THAT CONCLUDES THAT ITEM. AND I'M JUST I'M LOOKING AT MISS HEIZER JUST TO MAKE SURE. WAS WAS THAT SUFFICIENT TO DRAFT THE RESOLUTIONS? YES, SIR. OKAY. WE'LL HAVE ABOUT IN A DAY OR TWO AND HAVE STAFF GO OVER THEM, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THEM FOR YOUR AGENDA. OKAY. SO THE IDEA. SO WE'VE AGREED TO THAT. THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE RESOLUTION. RESOLUTIONS. AND NEXT WEEK THOSE SPECIFIC RESOLUTIONS WILL BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD TO APPROVE OR ADOPT. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE IN NEED OF AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. IT HAS ONE ITEM ON IT. WE ARE IN NEED OF AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING MATTER. IT'S ONLY ONE AN ADMINISTRATIVE APPOINTMENT FOR NORTH AUGUSTA HIGH SCHOOL. AFTER EXECUTIVE SESSION, WE WILL RETURN TO REGULAR SESSION AND VOTE ON THAT. IS THERE A MOTION TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THIS PURPOSE? MOVED BY MISS RHINEHART-JACKSON, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND BY DOCTOR HANKS. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ENTERING EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THIS PURPOSE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT'S NINE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION CARRIES. [02:20:01] LET'S TAKE ABOUT A TEN MINUTE BREAK, AND THEN WE'LL START EXECUTIVE SESSION. [03:19:09] WE CONCLUDED OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION AND WE NEED A MOTION TO REENTER REGULAR SESSION. [03:19:15] SO MOVED. MR. RHINEHART-JACKSON MADE A MOTION TO ENTER REGULAR SESSION. [03:19:18] IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. [03:19:20] I HEARD DOCTOR HANKS SECOND THAT MOTION. [03:19:22] ANY. SO THE MOTION IS TO REENTER REGULAR SESSION. [03:19:27] IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? [03:19:29] ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ENTERING REGULAR SESSION, [03:19:31] PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT'S NINE IN FAVOR. [03:19:34] UNANIMOUS MOTION CARRIES. [03:19:36] WE ARE NOW IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. [03:19:39] WHILE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, WE DISCUSSED ONE ITEM, AND THAT WAS AN ADMINISTRATIVE APPOINTMENT FOR NORTH AUGUSTA HIGH SCHOOL. IS THERE A MOTION IN REGARDS TO THAT ADMINISTRATIVE APPOINTMENT? I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE DISTRICT. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. MOTION MADE BY DOCTOR HANKS, SECONDED BY MISS TYLER, TO APPROVE THE DISTRICT'S RECOMMENDATION FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE APPOINTMENT AT NORTH [03:20:02] AUGUSTA HIGH SCHOOL. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT'S EIGHT IN FAVOR. ALL THOSE OPPOSED, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. ALL THOSE ABSTAINING, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT'S ONE MOTION PASSES. EIGHT IN FAVOR, ONE ABSTENTION. WE NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN. SO MOVED. MOVED BY MISS RHINEHART-JACKSON, IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND BY MISS TYLER? ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ADJOURNING, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT'S GLEASON EIGHT IN FAVOR? THE MOTION CARRIES. I AIN'T WAITING FOR YOU, JIM. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU GUYS. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.